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Re:How do you learn? by jamesbritt on Tuesday February 05, 2008 @05:15PM (#109953)
> Weekly lessons here and there helped but I really didn't start climbing up the pretty-steep Salsa learning curve until I started messing up on the dance floor dancing with random women.

I wonder if the adrenaline and stress makes a big difference. For example, I've been trying to improve my German for roughly forever, trying assorted books and CDs and such, but the best results have come from going to a weekly class.

Even without (much) studying I learn all sorts of things, and I think it's because I'm put on the spot to read things, conjugated verbs, make up sentences, and so on.

All of the real-time pressure (though, really, it's fun overall) seems to make a big impression on my brain.

Now I need to try speaking German to random women. :)

Re:How do you learn? by mixmax on Tuesday February 05, 2008 @09:42PM (#110076)
I was stuck in a German harbour alone for around 2 weeks two years ago, as my boat's engine had failed and needed repairs. Since I had nothing better to do I decided that I would try to learn as much German as possible. So I basically just started talking to strangers...

After two weeks I could actually survive through a conversation. When I started I knew no German at all.

Re:How do you learn? by wumi on Tuesday February 05, 2008 @10:16PM (#110092)
A friend once said it to me best

desire > ability

There's obviously no better way to learn then to immerse yourself in the culture, but you'd be surprised how many friends come back from a year abroad and have minimal gains.

to learn a language, try every time you meet someone in German, or even using online dictionary, spend 30 minutes talking/ asking questions/ writing down how to say that.

review it every day for at least an hour

learning a language takes a ton of diligence, and I've found that I often forgot what I learned if I didn't repeat it every single day for a good bit of time

soon, your mind will begin to think in the language ( a scary thought for me, a mono-lingual speaker at birth)

Re:How do you learn? by ced on Wednesday February 06, 2008 @04:34AM (#110218)
In my experience (and my teacher's), vocabulary is the biggest obstacle to understanding and being understood. I'm learning Turkish now, and I'm trying to do 40 words/day. It turns out, in the languages I know, you can usually follow

Subject + verb infinitive + object

and people will understand. Of course, grammar is important, but I hate it when I have to say "he is very good" instead of "he is quite good" because I don't know the right word.

I've heard that you need 3000 words to be reasonably comfortable in a language. With 40 words/day, that's still 3 months, which should be enough to pick up grammar if you actually talk to people and study a bit on the side.

Re:How do you learn? by foonamefoo on Wednesday February 06, 2008 @01:30AM (#110164)
You spoke at birth?