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Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by bko on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @07:26PM (#10984782)
I may be in the minority on this forum but I am not worried about the information that I willingly provide private corporations. The corporations that have my data continue to exist because people find their products valuable. When people talk about the power Google or Facebook have, they speak as though these are companies that have been around for hundreds of years amassing ever more power. I feel like I have more choices than ever as to the services I use and the power of these corporations is very fickle. Apple has lost over 10% of their value since this year began and about 25% in the last 6 months simply because expectations are that they are losing favor in the public, or at least that's my hypothesis. Every generation had a different country or corporation that they were afraid of.

And then we have the Congress in US with an approval rating in the teens and a re-election rate in the 90s [0]. Since there appears to be little accountability in the public sector and the monopoly on violence the government holds, I am much more concerned about that.

[0] https://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/reelect.php

Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by handedness on Thursday January 28, 2016 @01:34AM (#10986699)
> And then we have the Congress in US with an approval rating in the teens and a re-election rate in the 90s [0].

Far be it from me to defend the United States Congress, but the two things--a low approval rating combined with a high reelection rate--are often presented as evidence for corruption.

Corrupt though they may be, it's a faulty measure--the approval rating is for all of Congress. Most Americans by default hate half of congress--the half in the opposing party--and disapprove of many of their own members.

Put another way, the approval rating has Bostonians evaluating congressmen from Houston, but most people end up reelecting their own congressman. "The problem isn't my congresswoman, it's the other idiots," etc.

There are other, unfortunate reasons for that, but that's a separate point.

Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by flurpitude on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @10:48PM (#10986091)
But we know that these same corporations may be legally obliged, secretly compelled or financially incentivized to give or sell the information they have about you to the government. And if the government cannot get hold of the data through these means, they can simply steal it from the privately owned data centres where it has all been so conveniently aggregrated. Especially since Snowden we have seen that private corporations function as a funnel through which intelligence agencies amass data on private individuals.
Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by PhasmaFelis on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @10:33PM (#10986027)
> the monopoly on violence the government holds

People keep complaining about the "government monopoly on violence." What other group would you prefer to have a monopoly on violence? If the government doesn't enforce a monopoly, then invariably someone else will, in the process becoming the new government; or else two or more groups will actively dispute it, a condition commonly known as "war."

Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by jdminhbg on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @10:38PM (#10986040)
The point is that the entity given a monopoly on violence needs to be held to a higher standard than entities that aren't.
Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by PhasmaFelis on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @10:58PM (#10986133)
I can agree with that, and I hope that's what bko meant, but I've seen enough people (on HN and elsewhere) complaining specifically about the existence of the governmental monopoly on force that I wonder.
Re:Trying to interview Larry Page by __cato on Thursday January 28, 2016 @01:27AM (#10986685)
> What other group would you prefer to have a monopoly on violence?

The people. Governments can be illegitimate, e.g. not derive from the consent of the people, in which case government monopoly on violence yields oppression.

Violent revolutions are sometimes necessary in the course of human events. Without the people having the capacity to wage war on their government -- that is, the capacity for violence via the right to bear arms -- such revolutions are not possible.