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Re:Request For Research: Basic Income by samstave on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:39PM (#10983094)
We need to figure out an alternate way of living for people who are intellectually incapable of contributing to a modern technologically advanced economy. A basic income is a good start.

There is another dimension to this problem though; national borders and status.

There are a TON of really smart mexicans and other immigrants of every nation who are stuck into an effective caste system based on their status.

In fact, modern American society would literally fall apart if all the mexican service workers were raptured.

My point is that while we look at those who cannot contribute to a technologically advanced economy, we also are pigeon-holing many many others who are based on the complexities of citizenship status problem.

Re:Request For Research: Basic Income by rewqfdsa on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @04:00PM (#10983299)
We already have programs for granting preferential immigration to high-skilled foreigners. Every advanced country does. Unrestrained immigration is incompatible with a welfare state. Which would you rather have?
Re:Request For Research: Basic Income by oconnor663 on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @05:32PM (#10984080)
There's not necessarily a conflict between the two. One middle road would be to maintain the welfare state, but to add a rule saying that only people whose ancestors were citizens before year X could receive welfare.

The result would be extremely visibly racist, but I think the right response to that is to understand that existing immigration laws are in effect equally racist. It's the visibility that would change, rather than the degree.

Re:Request For Research: Basic Income by rewqfdsa on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @06:50PM (#10984578)
> existing immigration laws are in effect equally racist

Now it's racist for a country to provide services to its own citizens that it doesn't provide to the citizens of other countries?