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Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by Shivetya on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @07:05AM (#10972989)
He is being a political opportunist coming out with this proposal and others during an election cycle. If he had truly given a damn he had seven years to fix the plight of those imprisoned in this country. He had seven years to fix a lot of things but didn't. Since Republicans are portrayed as tough on crime this is being tossed out to put them in a lose lose situation. Don't even for once take any actions by any political figure in the US as anything less than political opportunism. Seven years, two of which they had near complete control of the government. Yet what did they do to improve the plight of those incarcerated, end the war on drugs, civil forfeiture, or countless other oppression of the people by the law enforcement industry? Hell he has waited till recently to finally close Gitmo. Applaud, more than shame him for wasting seven years
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by tptacek on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @07:49AM (#10973119)
No, that's now how the system works in the US. He has nothing left to run for; he's term limited and leaving the highest office in the country.

The election cycle does have something to do with it: in the last year of his presidency, he has nothing to lose legislatively by putting all his proposals on the table. In previous years, he had to weigh each of them against the cost of losing whatever he was trying to accomplish with Congress.

That's not Obama's fault; it's the nature of the system. The President can't do whatever they want; their hands are tied by the other two branches of government. Blame John Adams.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by qrendel on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @08:38AM (#10973299)
> No, that's now how the system works in the US. He has nothing left to run for; he's term limited and leaving the highest office in the country.

Outgoing Presidents still work towards the future electability of other members of their party over the alternatives - in Obama's case, Clinton or Sanders over the Republicans. That's part of the opportunism, along with, yes, saving the more controversial unilateral actions for when they no longer need to worry about their own re-election or cooperation from Congress.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by tptacek on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @09:19AM (#10973466)
It's an incoherent argument to suggest that Obama is both saving his most controversial actions for a time when he doesn't need to worry about his own re-election and working for the election of the next Democratic President.
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by qrendel on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @10:25AM (#10973818)
It's not at all that simple. The next candidate is then, during the election, free to position themselves however they want on the issue, whereas the President who chose to circumvent Congress and unilaterally implement a policy would be a much riper opportunity for attack in the next election cycle.

Liberal Democrats can then feel better (via recency bias) about a party that continued the Patriot Act, Gitmo, whistleblower prosecution, etc ad nauseam, while the next candidate can appeal to the moderate right that "hey, that was the last guy."

My point though was that it would be a misconception that an outgoing second term President doesn't have to weigh the impact of their decisions on future elections, even if they themselves will never run in one again. They aren't truly free to just drop whatever policies they want with no consideration for how it will impact future elections.

This one is getting done precisely because it can work with that agenda, unlike other possible policies that I'd bet, deep down inside, he has to know would also be good for the country - e.g. rescheduling marijuana or ending the war on drugs - but that would have a larger negative impact on future Democratic candidates.

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Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by tptacek on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @02:03PM (#10975185)
D'awww. Thank you!
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by ThomPete on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @08:30AM (#10973263)
How is it political opportunism? He can't run for another term. That makes no sense.

And I don't know where you have been, but the Republicans have repeatedly tried to destroy anything Obama proposed. I say this as a fiscally conservative person (i.e. i am with the republicans on the financial side but with the democrats on the values)

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by saalweachter on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @10:04AM (#10973684)
I am going to try to ask this in the least inflammatory way--

Why are you with the Republicans on financial matters?

I am a partisan Democrats and enjoy scoring points on the internet as much as the next fellow, but I'm also genuinely curious. From my perspective, the Republicans are extraordinarily financially irresponsible, all reputation and no substance. (It's like the old saying -- you get a reputation as an early riser and you can sleep in til noon.) They want to cut taxes, yes, but their proposals to do so all involve drastically unbalancing the Federal budget to do so. At their most serious, they include unspecified $XYZ billion spending cuts and then never specify what they would actually cut to close the gap.

Obama's deficit, meanwhile, has largely been the result of automatic spending increases from pre-existing legislation in response to the Great Recession; his stimulus bill from the first year of his Presidency was a small fraction of the increased spending on Medicaid and Welfare and SNAP as millions of people lost their jobs, on Social Security as people retired early, and Medicare as people deferred medical treatment until they qualified.

The ACA was funded, is costing less than projected, and is in fact controlling medical costs, which makes long term financial projections much rosier than they were ten years ago. There is no plan to replace it, and repealing it, as Republicans keep trying to do, would be bad for our short term and long term financial health.

Obama has significantly reduced the size of the Federal workforce (I am actually unhappy about that, since it probably slowed down the recovery).

So why do you consider the Republicans fiscally conservative?

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by ThomPete on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:31AM (#10974211)
Republicans in general want to pay as little tax as possible. Thats the basic stance I am with them on that.

Where they then want to spend is where the agreement stops and I end up being more democratic when it comes to values.