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Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by r00fus on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @12:06AM (#10971907)
I'd bet a good portion of the HN reader base has had an uncomfortable police encounter.

Also the prospect of going to jail for hacking or whistleblowing crimes is pretty harrowing - look what happened to Aaron Swartz.

Yeah, I'd say it's relevant to discuss here.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by ryanlol on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @03:03AM (#10972379)
>Also the prospect of going to jail for hacking or whistleblowing crimes is pretty harrowing - look what happened to Aaron Swartz.

But he'd probably have got off with parole.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by ryanlol on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @09:38AM (#10973536)
If you're going to downvote me for repeating the opinion of his own legal representation and several other legal experts commenting on the case, you could at least explain why.

(Although I did mess up parole vs probation)

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by username223 on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @12:24AM (#10971953)
> I'd bet a good portion of the HN reader base has had an uncomfortable police encounter.

Rich, white tech dudes? I doubt it. Even if they have, a bit of mouthing "sorry, Officer" probably solved the problem.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by deelowe on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:28AM (#10972134)
Heh... Anyone else getting tired of the backhanded racism against whites?

"Privileged" white male checking in here. I've been harassed by the cops at least 3 times. Two included spending the night in jail. One included a healthy threat of violence. I might not have it as bad as others, but I've had my run-ins buddy.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by enraged_camel on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @04:52AM (#10972634)
You do realize that anecdote doesn't make data, right? Because the data is clear: wealthy white males are far, far less likely to get harassed by the police as any other ethnicity/income/gender combo. So the parent's comment, while politically incorrect, is factually on point.
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by xiaoma on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @06:08AM (#10972831)
This is incorrect. The single major demographic trait most likely to lead to arrest, higher conviction rates and stricter sentencing for the same crime is to be male. Being black (or to a lesser extent, Latino) is also a huge factor, as is being young.

The demographic of elderly Asian women, for example, is not more likely to get harassed by police, face arrest if they are or to be sentenced harshly in the event of a conviction.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by IIAOPSW on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:19AM (#10972111)
Last time I looked at the stats, 18-30 male is the demographic most often arrested. Black 18-30 male get arrested slightly more often than white 18-30 male (although not as much as you'd expect). If you looked at the numbers and nothing else, the truly "privileged" demographic is actually Asian females. And for the record, yes I'm in the 18-30 male demo and yes I've had a police run in which didn't end in "sorry officer".

Now conviction rates are another story...

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by int_handler on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @12:39AM (#10971986)
Yeah, just saying, "sorry, Officer," obviously solved the problem for Aaron Swartz.
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by 1stop on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:22AM (#10972122)
Yeah, one privileged guy had problems and everyone remembers it forever... Isn't really comparable to the thousands of underpribileged who's lives are just as tragically ruined...
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by int_handler on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @09:12PM (#10977764)
Nobody is discounting the problem of police brutality for the thousands of underprivileged. Acknowledging that problem should not mean that we should simply ignore other forms judicial overreach, such as the abuse of the CFAA in Aaron Swartz's case. Both are major problems that need to be discussed.

Keep in mind that another major reason people remember Aaron Swartz because of everything he has contributed to the world of technology [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Life_and_works

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by 1stop on Friday January 29, 2016 @11:53PM (#11000564)
I agree that is why he should be remembered. I disagree that is why he is. Of course impossible to seperate the reasons now. But certainly his notoriety is far more widespread after his death, than before.
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by wfo on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:47AM (#10972191)
Yup, cops don't ever abuse their power unless it's against a minority. Cops aren't power hungry or brutal, they just have an unending unexplainable hatred for minorities.

And even if they do abuse or brutalize a white person who cares right? That white person probably had such a good life before then that they deserved it.

It's one thing to focus the conversation on race when we're talking about race, and fight off intentional malicious distractions like "all lives matter". It's entirely another to pretend no issues exist unless they only affect minorities.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by username223 on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @02:11AM (#10978711)
Thanks for putting those words in my mouth...

Police have terrifying power, and fail to de-escalate situations much of the time. However, as a middle-aged and middle-class white dude, I have been able to avoid violence and jail on several occasions.

Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by rnhmjoj on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @12:57AM (#10972039)
Read Ian Murdock's last tweets.
Re:Barack Obama: Why we must rethink solitary confinement by corywatilo on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:06AM (#10972062)
Whoa...