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Re:Why Are So Many Zappos Employees Leaving? by mabbo on Monday January 25, 2016 @09:09AM (#10967214)
> The "no true manager" argument is always brought out

That's a fair point- I won't say there aren't any bad managers- there are sociopaths attracted to the field. But I don't think you've met any of the good ones either. I'm sorry to hear that.

> Guess who inevitably fills management jobs at medium to large companies.

The sociopath-style manager will only have short-term gains compared to the managers who've acquired the skill set for the domain. One's people will be unhappy and quit; the other's will stay and encourage friends to join. After a few years of this, when upper management want to promote to a manager-of-managers, the long-term results will speak for themselves.

That's how I lost my best manager- he succeeded so widely that he was promoted up another level (where he continued to do very well).

My advice to you is to consider how you would behave as a manager. How would you run a team of ICs such that they'd be happy, productive, and meeting all goals? It's not about whether you'd want to or not, it's how you'd approach the problem.

Re:Why Are So Many Zappos Employees Leaving? by codeonfire on Monday January 25, 2016 @10:14PM (#10971629)
> the long-term results will speak for themselves.

No they won't because corporate management creates perverse policies of continuous turnover and stack ranking for this exact reason. Losing all your people many times over in a short time is just portrayed as a sign of a good manager culling the herd.

Re:Why Are So Many Zappos Employees Leaving? by mabbo on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @07:00PM (#10977225)
Well, my experience has been different than yours. Perhaps you haven't worked at a company that values good leadership.