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Re:Massachusetts Chief’s Tack in Drug War: Steer Addicts to ... by CodeWriter23 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:51PM (#10965299)
Suboxone is just dope from a dope man in a lab coat. All suboxone does is switch addiction from opiates or opioids, to opioids. I've known more than a few people who were detoxing from suboxone say it's easier to kick heroin.
Re:Massachusetts Chief’s Tack in Drug War: Steer Addicts to ... by cubano on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:12PM (#10965514)
I had a very close ex-girlfriend who went on subs but wanted desperately to get out of the whole game.

After I went to an inpatient treatment center and learned from the professionals there that kicking subs was way harder then heroin, and saw with my own eyes a few people there who were having a bitch of time.

I ended up telling her this, and strongly advised her to get back on heroin for a week and then kick...she followed my advice and thanked me for profusely as she tried the sub detox taper and couldn't make it work.

Re:Massachusetts Chief’s Tack in Drug War: Steer Addicts to ... by s_q_b on Monday January 25, 2016 @06:38AM (#10966618)
Suboxone for heroin addicts is like benzodiazepines for alcohol withdrawal. It should only be used in the initial withdrawal period for a short period of time.

The proper protocol is to substitute the short-acting heroin for the longer half-life Suboxone. This stabilizes the blood levels, thereby eliminating inter-dose withdrawal symptoms.

The dose is supposed to be titrated to zero over a few weeks. Otherwise you'll just end up swapping on addiction for another.

It's a shame, because Buprenorphine is a really good medication when used properly.

Re:Massachusetts Chief’s Tack in Drug War: Steer Addicts to ... by ChinoAntrax on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:31PM (#10965410)
That's why addicts should only use suboxone to get over the initial, physical withdrawal symptoms and only take it for maybe a week and then taper it down. Suboxone is a far worse thing to detox from because the half life is far longer than opiates -- something like 36-48 hours.

Suboxone is a Godsend if you only use it to get over the initial w/d's

Re:Massachusetts Chief’s Tack in Drug War: Steer Addicts to ... by CodeWriter23 on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:18AM (#10965719)
I see no problem with using any drugs as a step-down. But what is happening is Pharma is lobbying state governments to employ suboxone as a long term maintenance solution.