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Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by morgante on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:01PM (#10964689)
> $1.5b profit/year

If they actually got to $1.5b annual earnings, they could definitely justify a $12b cap. A P/E of 8 would be ridiculously low for the technology industry—heck, for any industry.

I'm not enthusiastic about Twitter and certainly wouldn't buy the stock, but the company also definitely isn't "worthless." There's certainly a path to profitability.

Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by mason55 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:10PM (#10964732)
> A P/E of 8 would be ridiculously low for the technology industry—heck, for any industry.

In this scenario they have fired everyone and given up trying to grow. A P/E of 8 would be way overvalued.

Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by khuey on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:21PM (#10964777)
You would only have to pay out 360 million a year to shareholders on a market cap of 12B to get a 3% dividend yield. It may not be sexy, especially in Silicon Valley, but Twitter could be a perfectly viable company.
Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by sgt101 on Monday January 25, 2016 @08:37AM (#10967059)
But that's the problem they have - the market is/was bought in on the basis that this is a $40bn company (or more), the price reflects an massive upside belief, but the reality is $12b is about right.

So - sack a lot of people, cut costs, hold cash in the business and disappoint investors... Will the investors wear that though?

Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by morgante on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:48PM (#10964893)
> A P/E of 8 would be way overvalued.

I disagree. For one thing, a P/E of 8 is standard for industries which most think are either declining or entirely stable. Benjamin Graham used 8.5 as a "no-growth" P/E so it's hardly insane. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Graham_formula

Moreover, even without feature expansion, I do think Twitter will see growth, though that growth will be minimal. At the very least they stand to benefit from the ever-increasing number of people on the internet.

Re:Also Out at Twitter: Engineering Head Roetter (and More t... by kevinpet on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:33AM (#10966320)
A P/E of 8, in today's interest rate environment, means the company is actually failing and you're buying a decreasing future stream of revenue. Out of the S&P 500, there are four companies with P/E below 8 (Delta, Noble Corp (oil rigs), Yahoo, and Valero (oil again)).