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Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by pavlov on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @06:21AM (#10937325)
Although Windows 10 on desktop is a bit of a mess, the Mobile edition is much worse.

Microsoft is now selling Lumia phones with Windows 10 Mobile, but even Windows Central thinks it's not ready:

"I'm relatively savvy with this stuff. But I was ready to throw it out of a window before someone pointed out the non-obvious thing that I needed to do. This wasn't the only piece of out-of-box jank, either, to which I was told a new firmware update should 'fix' most of. It then took 48 hours for the firmware update to show up, download and install to the phone."

http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-550-review

It's a real shame. Windows Phone 7/8 was so great because it was like an Apple product done better than Apple: it didn't have "kitchen sink" features, but instead everything just worked and was holistically designed. In the original WP7 design, the borders between apps and the OS were faded to a degree that's unique. (This design was eventually lost as Windows Phone tried to catch up with app-oriented mobile rivals.)

In Windows 10 Mobile, everything has been rewritten as Universal Windows 10 apps that sort of look like the WP8 equivalents but work much worse (because they're really desktop apps squeezed onto a phone).

That kind of endless strategy-driven software rewrites are the plague of Microsoft today. The OP who is disillusioned with Windows Store mentions that the Store Dashboard got much worse when Windows 10 came around. Why? Who knows -- probably somebody at MS just decided that the Dashboard needs to be implemented using hot tech X rather than stale old tech Y.

This endless churn sucks and drives customers away. I quit using Windows Phone for good last year, mostly due to the customer-hostile Windows 10 plan and lack of new hardware. Can't say I've regretted it so far.

Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by jon-wood on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @07:00AM (#10937477)
> In Windows 10 Mobile, everything has been rewritten as Universal Windows 10 apps that sort of look like the WP8 equivalents but work much worse (because they're really desktop apps squeezed onto a phone).

The even sadder thing is that when I tried using Windows 10 as my main OS for a while all the Windows 10 apps felt like phone apps stretched out to work on a desktop.

Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by Joeri on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @07:14AM (#10937528)
My experience going from wp8 on a lumia 920 to wp10 on a lumia 950 is that mail, calendar and settings got better, the browser is a wash trading improved site compatibility for worse battery life, and everything else that changed got worse. The wp of old was slow to update, but it was rock solid and highly usable. The new one not so much with crashes, slowdowns and battery drain issues all over. For what i paid for this phone i could have picked any android phone. I probably should have.
Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by at-fates-hands on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @10:16AM (#10938588)
They been battling the battery issue over several of the latest builds and its not working. I upgraded to WM 10 on my Lumia Icon and its been a mess.

8 and 8.1 were stable and snappy. 10 has been a nightmare for me. The UI is nearly unusable and clunky. Just to do simple things, I have two, sometimes three additional clicks to get where I want to go. Even with successive builds my Lumia still freezes, crashes and restarts A LOT.

A typical example was this week. Went to my nieces hockey game with a full battery. Went to take a video, it started recording, then froze, then restarted (crashed). I thought, "Well, that sucks." It reboots, I try again, same thing. Then when my phone restarts, and I get the warning, "Your battery is critically low, please plug in."

I decided this week I'm going back to Android, Windows Mobile 10 at this point is almost unusable for me.

Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by mahouse on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @08:37AM (#10937918)
Many people say that the problem with Windows Phone is that there are no apps, but the OS is crap as well.
Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by Joeri on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @08:43AM (#10937958)
The OS was good around the 8.0 time frame, reliable and highly usable. Not the whack-a-mole app dance that is iOS, and not the byzantine maze of android. The changes in 8.1 I did not care for, it made things more like iOS / android but at least the OS remained reliable. It seems like MS thought about the phone and what their strengths were, and decided to get rid of them.
Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by mahouse on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @09:06AM (#10938105)
I must be the only one that cares about design, because the inconsistencies they introduced in margins, dialogs, style of buttons, etc. in 8.1 really grinded my gears.
Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by dagw on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @08:44AM (#10937967)
Personally I think the OS is great. The problems are all on the app side.
Re:Why you should not develop apps for Windows 10 by kelvin0 on Wednesday January 20, 2016 @09:40AM (#10938344)
Wow. I totally get your point, however it used to be that the OS was simply a platform to USE apps with which you do actual work. We've come a long way to this distorted weird dysfunctional belief ...