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Re:Debt Dodgers: Americans Who Moved to Europe and Went AWOL... by brudgers on Monday January 18, 2016 @11:59AM (#10925422)
I'm sure that if people could discharge their student loans via bankruptcy, many would. They can't. The basis of our economic system is that fees and interest offset the risk in a loan. With student loans they don't, they're the bank's cut of a system that transfers all the economic risk to a cohort in which desperate straights are the norm.
Re:Debt Dodgers: Americans Who Moved to Europe and Went AWOL... by ChuckMcM on Monday January 18, 2016 @01:54PM (#10926093)
I agree with this, and I think "Student Loans" are the subprime mortgage crisis of the hour. I get particularly incensed when we read reports of for profit universities convincing kids they will have great job prospects if they get their diploma and will be able to pay off any loans they get now. The banks collude with them because as you mention they aren't really pricing risk, there is no risk, they are just taking 0% interest money from the Fed and converting it into 8% interest money from delinquent student loans.

But that said, I would hope that people have enough responsibility to only take loans they intend to repay, and to work within the system to repay them, rather than assert after the fact that the system is broken and so the tax payers should bail them out.

Re:Debt Dodgers: Americans Who Moved to Europe and Went AWOL... by brudgers on Monday January 18, 2016 @02:16PM (#10926239)
I haven't had a new student loan since the 1990's so I may be wrong in assuming that the terms of student loans have not improved, But during the seventeen years between taking my first and last, there was always a 5% origination fee on top of the interest. Those came off the top before the school deducted their cut.

I'll add that as an 18 year old, I had no concept of what borrowing the money...a whopping $1500 which was half of one semester's tuition at a private university...meant. I wasn't sober enough to handle that sort of responsibility for another several years.

The system isn't broken. It's become corrupt. Banning discharge via bankruptcy was sold by saying that doctors and lawyers were the primary source of defaults on student loans. That's not the case today, and the student loan industry is largely built on reselling loans and collections.

The system is designed to leverage massive asymmetry at every point. Even down to, "why aren't you taking out a loan to insure your child receives the education they deserve?"

Re:Debt Dodgers: Americans Who Moved to Europe and Went AWOL... by redneck_ on Monday January 18, 2016 @12:11PM (#10925475)
Your response is vague. Who are the cohort?

I disagree with you, btw, since much risk on some loans is passed to the US federal government.

It's childish behavior like running away and defailting that cause student loans to be expensive for the rest of us. Man up, it's not a lot of money.