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Re:Goodbye Docker on CentOS, Hello Ubuntu by Jedd on Sunday January 17, 2016 @07:09PM (#10921756)
Yeah, this surprised me too, given the stated interest in a light-weight, server (no GUI) platform.

But we see this a lot - people jump onto Ubuntu despite not having an interest in running Unity, Mir, upstart, etc, or having a slightly fancier installer, or different schedule on release of stable / long term support versions.

I suspect it's simply that for many people unfamiliar with the various GNU/Linux distros, Ubuntu is the one they've heard of more often. And while most people marvel at the sophisticated package management system, few ponder why the package files don't have a .ubu suffix.

Re:Goodbye Docker on CentOS, Hello Ubuntu by ricardobeat on Sunday January 17, 2016 @07:56PM (#10921912)
He installed Ubuntu Server, which does not have a graphical interface. Being "heard of more often" translates into the most up-to-date package manager, a well-known and long-term supported system, and wider software compatibility than any other distro, all great qualities for a server.
Re:Goodbye Docker on CentOS, Hello Ubuntu by hhw on Sunday January 17, 2016 @11:43PM (#10922560)
The real package manager itself comes upstream from Debian; Ubuntu just normally puts fragile GUIs around it. Most of the positives for Ubuntu come from Debian. The Ubuntu specific stuff on the other hand sometimes breaks core functionality like booting off software RAID being broken in 12.x, which has worked fine in Debian for at least a decade.

Generally speaking, a server environment is not the right place to run bleeding edge software. Debian's conservatism is quite sensible when it comes to production server environments, and traditionally (before the whole systemd debacle) they were pretty good at prioritizing stability over the feature of the week demanded by more desktop-centric folks. There's Ubuntu and other derivatives that can cater to their specific needs without compromising the integrity of the distribution in general. And if you have a specific application that requires a more recent version, you can always make use of a 3rd party repository (that you'd of course have carefully vetted first), a binary package, or just rolling your own from source. It makes much more sense to take those extra steps for specific applications than take a blanket approach to rolling out new code all over your production environment.

Re:Goodbye Docker on CentOS, Hello Ubuntu by Jedd on Sunday January 17, 2016 @08:22PM (#10921992)
Yes, you're right wrt the GUI. I'd kind of tangentially gone off about the 'I need a better GNU/Linux distro - I'll use a derivative of Debian' angle. I had a look for a package list for current Ubuntu Server LTS (now 20 months old) but couldn't find one. I expect it includes upstart, given the vintage. Nonetheless.

Could you please explain this reasoning:

  > Being "heard of more often" translates into the most up-to-date package manager
I think you're agreeing with me when I say Ubuntu is heard of more often, and you say it's well-known.

Support -- have you compared the length of support for Debian stable and Ubuntu LTS releases? Did you conclude that Ubuntu has long-term support and Debian does not?

Can you also explain what you mean by:

  > [Ubuntu has] wider software compatibility than any other distro
I'd be curious what software runs on Ubuntu that doesn't run on, Debian, CentOS/RHEL, etc.
Re:Goodbye Docker on CentOS, Hello Ubuntu by rusher81572 on Sunday January 17, 2016 @08:02PM (#10921933)
Yup!