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Re:If too many users are wrong, it's probably your fault (2011) by neikos on Tuesday January 12, 2016 @08:29PM (#10891719)
At my University I would say the Numbers are about the same, CS Student in Programming, had C/C++ classes, still don't know what the heap/stack is.

The teachers themselves are pretty bad as well. Java is alrightish, but not in a course called 'Systems Programming' where we talk about paging! And the list goes on...

Re:If too many users are wrong, it's probably your fault (2011) by golergka on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @02:46AM (#10892888)
I'm always astonished by people who teach C++ to newbies in programming. I've been writing code more or less constantly for 20 years (since I was about 7), work as a lead developer now (C#/Unity), and have developed quite a while small hobby projects in C as well as in C++, read the Straustroup book on the labguage (the small "Tour" one) and even practiced about half of it, but C++ and all it can do still frightens me, and I sincerely hope that I never have to work with it in production.

Now, when I hear about students that learn what array or loop is on C++... I imagine how they start call themselves "C++ developers" after graduation, and it's even more terrifying.

Re:If too many users are wrong, it's probably your fault (2011) by neikos on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @03:42AM (#10893057)
I completely agree, despite having done somewhat well on that course I do not call myself a C++ Programmer and would rather not use it later on.

But it was just an example that despite needing some crucial knowledge students just don't care and do not bother to learn themselves. (Even if told)