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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by erhardm on Monday January 11, 2016 @09:30AM (#10880916)
To be clear, NSL are anti-democratic and wrong.

But it looks like they put themselves in that position. Either by voluntary working with the FBI and allegedly taking a $1M grant, and/or doing unethical research by doing it on the live network.

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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by geofft on Monday January 11, 2016 @09:47AM (#10880998)
Is it possible for an NSL to order you to conduct your research on the live network?

(I mean, I guess it's possible for an NSL to order you to do anything, because America.)

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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by sarciszewski on Monday January 11, 2016 @11:11AM (#10881231)
All an NSL can do is request subscriber information and simultaneously gag you from telling them that the request occurred.
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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by criddell on Monday January 11, 2016 @11:19AM (#10881304)
So then it must be the $1,000,000 that made CMU adjust their ethical standards.

What's worse - that CMU did this in the first place or that they did it so cheaply?

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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by doktrin on Monday January 11, 2016 @12:07PM (#10881635)
SEI/CERT is for all intents and purposes completely independent of CMU
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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by mikecb on Monday January 11, 2016 @11:11AM (#10881235)
No, it's a (formally, administrative subpoena) request for transactional records related to a national security investigation.
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Re:Two months after FBI debacle, Tor Project still can’t get... by fweespeech on Monday January 11, 2016 @01:07PM (#10881982)
No, it can't ask you to change behavior.

It can only require you to turn over existing records/information.

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