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Re:FreeBSD Jails the hard way by jmhain on Friday January 08, 2016 @08:11PM (#10869546)
> Systemd, on the other hand, disabling their syslog is simply not an option

You can set Storage=none and ForwardToSyslog=yes in /etc/systemd/journald.conf [0].

[0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Syslog-ng#syslog-ng_and...

Re:FreeBSD Jails the hard way by cthalupa on Friday January 08, 2016 @08:49PM (#10869669)
The journal still takes over /proc/kmsg. You're relying on journald working properly, and you cannot bypass it. Forwarding things on from journald is not the same as disabling it completely.

(This sort of inability to make decisions about what tools you use for your system is one of the complaints about systemd)

Re:FreeBSD Jails the hard way by Sanddancer on Friday January 08, 2016 @08:38PM (#10869634)
That's not disabling journald, that's disabling journald writing messages. It's still receiving every byte sent to the system log, it's still in memory, and otherwise still running.