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Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by TeMPOraL on Friday January 08, 2016 @03:31PM (#10867986)
As others said, your understanding is fine - you just need to gain the appreciation to how much more unordered states are there for a system to be in than the ordered ones. My physics professor used to underscore it by drawing diagrams that show a line that suddenly goes from almost 0 to "the tip of this line is somewhere in the next galaxy".

Or to give you a somewhat similar problem - consider a 32x32px 8bit image (a standard Windows icon since version 3.0). The image consists of 1024 pixels, each capable of representing a different color from the set of 256 colors. How many possible pictures like this are there? Or, as you'd ask in thermodynamics, in how many states such a system can be? It's 256 states per pixel raised to 1024th power (just like 6-digit binary number has 2^6 possible values). It's 256^1024. You know how much is it?

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  95216264234525201987223957291796157025273109870820177184063610979765077554799078
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  51315177575191648992263657437224322773680750276278830452065017927617009456991684
  97257879683851737049996900961120515655050115561271491492515342105748966629547032
  78632150573082843022166497032439613863525162640951616800542762343599630892169144
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  49410727156115804346908274593399919614142427414105991174260605564837637563145276
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  49356215610907958451729541159729274798775277385600082041185589300047777487277618
  53813510493840581861598652211605960308356405941821189714037868726219481498727603
  65361629885617482241303348543878532402475141941718301228107820972930353737280457
  43720952287036227763639452908698062584223551485075710396193874496298668081887696
  62815778153079393179093143648340761738581819563002994422790754955061288818308430
  07964869323217915876591803556521615711540299212027615560787310793747746684152836
  29877086994501520312318625942030856938389446570613462367042340268211029589549511
  97087076546186622796294536451620756509351018906023773821539532776208676978589731
  96633030889330466516943618507835064156833694453005143749131129883436726523859540
  49042734559287239495252271846174043678547546104743770197680255766058810380772707
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  36076752996493841459818570596375456149735582781362383328890630900428801732142480
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This much. (Source: [0]).

Now ask yourself, how many of those pictures represent a letter "A". Quite a lot probably, but nowhere near that much. In all those 256^1024 pictures, you have every possible representable letter A, as well as any other possible Unicode character. In those images are all your most cherished private photos (or at least their thumbnails), and also the photos of all things that you'd wish happened but didn't. A thumbnail of every possible photo of the universe is there as well.

There's also something else. Something much more frequent than all other image I've just mentioned taken together. It's the noise. The things we don't recognize, the things we consider uninteresting. I ask you, use your intuition - if you were to create a random Windows icon every second, how soon would you expect to get one depicting a letter "A"?

And now realize we were talking about silly icons that are probably barely visible on your screen.

There are 6.02 x 10²³ atoms in 12 grams of carbon. I.e. in a tip of your pencil. 602000000000000000000000 atoms. Those are your pixels. And if you want to compute the number of states this pile of atoms can be in, that is the number that goes in your exponent. The base is some combination of possible positions, orientations and velocities, and then probably something else I'm forgetting right now. And almost all of those states are noise. That's how the Second Rule works.

[0] - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=256%5E1024

Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by prewett on Friday January 08, 2016 @03:50PM (#10868125)
The Digital Library of Babel (https://libraryofbabel.info/) was posted here a while ago, which is a tangible way to search through this space. The library comes from a book by Jorge Luis Borges, which has all possible books, meaningful and not. The people in the book are searching for books with meaning, but the chance of finding one is really small. The digital library lets you do the search electronically. Kind of fun to play around with.
Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by Nadya on Friday January 08, 2016 @05:42PM (#10868865)
It also has a link to the Universal Slideshow. Which let's one browse every image (of a given size) that represents what TeMPOral was talking about.

Ever since I discovered that site I've been slightly obsessed with it. In the "This is really interesting" sort of way. It makes one think how everything is noise. We just happen to find meaning in some of it.

Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by dsmolovich on Friday January 08, 2016 @10:07PM (#10869911)
It's funny though as I had a very similar idea some years ago sticking much with virtual machines. I thought that if VM's disk image is just a file represented by sequence of zeroes and ones and what if someone would generate a final number of those images starting from 0...0 to 1...1 and then probe them all on a given emulated hardware what would be a chance to discover some viable/useful software? How would we detect it? How would we know or reverse engineer it to understand what it could be used for and how to use it, interact with it etc.?

So I ended up thinking that it would be a project similar to SETI but on a smaller scale (let's say if the image size would be limited to just 1Gb).

Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by vardump on Friday January 08, 2016 @05:01PM (#10868650)
> There are 6.02 x 10²³ atoms in 12 grams of carbon. I.e. in a tip of your pencil.

Pretty big pencil.

Re:Time’s Almost Reversible Arrow by javajosh on Friday January 08, 2016 @06:43PM (#10869185)
we're dealing with big numbers so an order of magnitude or two doesn't matter much.