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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by Vendan on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @01:08AM (#10841562)
That's fine, I personally don't support the draft, but still. What about the legal system? Don't you see there is a problem with forcibly locking a portion of our population away behind bars? After all, that's what the government does, "for your own safety". Do you really feel safe in a country where the government can decide that murder is a "crime" for which you should be inhumanely LOCKED AWAY FOR LIFE?

P.S. Extreme sarcasm above...

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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by donatj on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @01:48AM (#10841706)
The only justifiable coercion is against coercion. Someone injures you physically or financialy. Forcing someone to do something they don't want to including dieing or giving you their things is coercion. Coercion is always unjust and only fit as a reciprocation for coercion.
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by ubernostrum on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @02:49AM (#10841924)
So you're prepared to invalidate close to 100% of all employment contracts in the US?
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by donatj on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @02:50AM (#10841926)
Quite the contrary. Those are entered into willfully and not coercively.
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by Vendan on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @09:11AM (#10843293)
But they are paid, largely, via taxes that I would believe many people would like to not pay. Taxation's gotta be a coercive thing... what's your take on that?
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by Lawtonfogle on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @04:44PM (#10846293)
Does financial coercion exist? If wage slavery doesn't count, what does count as financial coercion?
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by nbb on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @02:24AM (#10841823)
Cite?
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by donatj on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @02:47AM (#10841907)
*The Golden Rule. "Treat others as you would like to be treated"
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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by nickff on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @01:53AM (#10841721)
I have recently revised my views in light of Michael Huemer's latest book, which I found convincing (, despite my initial reluctance to accept many of his findings).[1] It takes at least a book to explain his reasoning (which rightfully separates political legitimacy and political obligation from each other and independent moral obligations), and I won't bore you with poor paraphrasing here.

[1] http://www.palgrave.com/page/detail/the-problem-of-political...

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Re:Many See I.R.S. Penalties as More Affordable Than Health ... by Lawtonfogle on Tuesday January 05, 2016 @04:43PM (#10846284)
You admit to sarcasm, but say the murder victim was an 3rd trimester fetus... now you have yourself a modern day political issue.
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