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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by leaveyou on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:45AM (#10835008)
I really don't understand what is their logic when they place a full Print Screen key (which I use 10 times a year at most) right between the Alt and Ctrl but the arrow keys are smaller and crowded and Home and End (which I use every time I edit something) are not even on the keyboard (or maybe there is some unhandy Fn+ shortcut?). WTF ? I got used to Sony Vaio which has full arrow keys and a smaller shift and an additional column of keys "Del, Home, PgUp, PgDown and End and now they discontinued the brand... I'm doomed. http://postimg.org/image/yt3kpzarx/
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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by Already__Taken on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:42AM (#10835270)
F12 home end insert del, right there on the top row. I'd much rather them be function keys on the left/home right/end arrow keys.

Someone really needs to figure out a sleek backlit fixed size keyboard area for everyone to have their own keyboard custom printed. I wouldn't even want an insert key.

Crap-sized enter is a deal breaker too.

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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by ansible on Monday January 04, 2016 @08:27AM (#10835471)
I use the Insert key a lot. Shift-Insert and Ctrl-Insert for cut and paste work well with Cygwin. They also work for some programs like Orcad for entry boxes where Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V don't.
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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by floatboth on Monday January 04, 2016 @06:50AM (#10835034)
You can remap Print Screen (or any key really) to anything you want in software.

Home and End... Have you seen this keyboard? They're in the top right corner.

Page Up/Down near the arrow keys is really nice.

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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by leaveyou on Monday January 04, 2016 @07:24AM (#10835187)
They were not visible in the image posted by frik. I see them now. PgUp/Down are nice if they are "wherever you are used to look for them" but for some unknown reasons most brands keep making changes to the layout with every model. Another irritating trend is to make the touch pad unnecessarily big while the keyboard is crowded and pushed so close to the screen that you cover the lower part of it with your hands when you type.
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Re:Lenovo Launches ThinkPad X1 Yoga at CES with OLED Display by Qiasfah on Monday January 04, 2016 @01:20PM (#10837319)
"but for some unknown reasons most brands keep making changes to the layout with every model"

The thinkpad keyboard layout has been consistent as of late. The T460(s) keyboard layout is the same as the T450(s) keyboard, which is the same as the T440(s) layout, which is almost the same as the T430(s) layout with minor differences in the function keys.

These thinkpads are not an example of a brand changing the layout every model.

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