You don't honor a death. You honor a life, at the moment of death, because death is moment when you realize you didn't pay enough attention during their life.

If anything, suicide makes it more tragic and sad. And Steve Jobs was simply known to a lot more people - his death was all over the news for weeks.

>Ian took his own life as some sort of retaliation against perceived police brutality in the middle of an alcohol/drug fueled rage.

We don't know any of this yet. Speculate all you want but don't state it as if it were a fact.

>If anything, suicide makes it more tragic and sad.

I disagree. For example if someone takes all their money and lights it on fire, you shouldn't feel bad for them that they just lost their money.

> things are a bit different when someone takes their own life

This is a golden example of stigmatizing mental illness. If he had cancer, it would have been a "real" tragedy, but because he (likely) had some kind of mental illness/breakdown that led to the same result, it's "different".

You know, personally I think what Steve Jobs did - aside from gaming the system to get first dibs on his new liver - was tantamount to murder. He got a new liver, and then didn't follow standard treatment for his cancer, resulting in his own death.

The liver he (effectively) stole could have gone to someone else who could still be alive today. Doesn't that make you sick ? It's tantamount to killing an innocent life.

Edit: The more I think about it, Steve did take his own life. I'm sure at some point, his doctors told him "if you dont do this [follow treatment regimen], you'll die". So he committed suicide too.

If anything I feel it's exactly the opposite. Ian was having a mental breakdown of some sort when he apparently committed suicide, and was not in his right mind.

Steve on the other hand was in full control of his facilities when he willfully refused treatment that might have saved, or at least extended his life. When he finally realized his mistake it was too late.

You are essentially claiming that mental illness is less respectable than physical illness.

(BTW, much has been said about Jobs refusing standard cancer treatment and choosing a potentially less effective one.)

> BTW, much has been said about Jobs refusing standard cancer treatment and choosing a potentially less effective one

Steve Jobs very well may be alive today had he chosen to undergo typical cancer treatments since his was discovered moderately early.

He ate carrots and drank herbal tea, at protest of doctors and medical professionals, right up until even he realized his course of action was foolish. He panicked and tried to undergo dramatic procedures, but it was too late.

> You are essentially claiming that mental illness is less respectable than physical illness.

Not at all. But this case with Ian doesn't appear to have been caused by mental illness, rather it appears to have been the result of heavy binge drinking ("black out drunk") (and possibly drugs, due to his erratic and abnormal behavior and statements), and people do very stupid things in that state (including commit suicide even though their sober selves wouldn't permit it).

This isn't an Aaron Swartz case where Ian was pushed to the very edge over a period of time, and systematically had his life and everything to look forward to ripped away by a system built purely to destroy him. Ian's death was the direct result of his actions over the period of a weekend, heavily influenced by alcohol (and possibly drugs). That's a different case entirely.

It's a little more difficult to feel the same sort of pain for someone who was upset at the consequences from their own actions (try to break into someone's home, police are going to arrest/ticket you... do it a second time on the same night, and you definitely will be arrested).

It's apparent, in Ian's drunken stupor, he fundamentally believed he did nothing wrong and everyone was out to "get him". This is indicative of a drunk and/or someone on drugs (inability to see cause and effect, and rationalize about one's own actions).

> It's apparent, in Ian's drunken stupor, he fundamentally believed he did nothing wrong and everyone was out to "get him". This is indicative of a drunk and/or someone on drugs (inability to see cause and effect, and rationalize about one's own actions).

Seems a little harsh given the few details we have to blame it all on Ian being drunk. Most drunk people don't kill themselves, it's obvious something else happened we don't know about. All I know is that for now, I trust Ian more than I do cops specially after events such as these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Andy_Lopez

You weren't witness to the events you speak so confidently of.