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Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by rdtsc on Thursday December 31, 2015 @01:51AM (#10816573)
> that foreign workers are more productive.

Yeah but we still have to explain why. Home come they are more productive?

Do they have different, more powerful genes. Did they go to cherry picking academy as children? Have longer arms?

They seem to be more productive even living in school buses and pretty terrible conditions!

Of course I am being sarcastic here to illustrate a point. They are productive because they are scared. Put a gun to anyone's head, and they'll be very productive. Threaten their children with starvation back home, and you'd be surprised how early they'll rise and bike through the snow or rain to their job.

The other side of the coin is ugly too. Are the immigrant workers more productive because somehow American workers looking for these jobs are un-productive as a group. That is a tough topic to discuss without getting into dangerous waters. The article brings those comments up from employers' perspective.

Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by lmm on Thursday December 31, 2015 @07:03AM (#10817276)
> Do they have different, more powerful genes.

Suppose that were true. Would you expect anyone to get away with saying so publicly?

You're also neglecting the possibility of cultural factors.

> Threaten their children with starvation back home, and you'd be surprised how early they'll rise and bike through the snow or rain to their job.

This is also true. Many of these guest workers need the jobs more than Americans (where public assistance will at least keep them from starvation) do. But in that case isn't it more ethical that the jobs go to those who need them most?

Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by chrischen on Thursday December 31, 2015 @02:58AM (#10816744)
https://news.vice.com/video/immigrant-america-they-steal-our...

See this VICE piece on illegal immigrant labor. Based on interviews they imply they work harder.

I'd guess if it were true, it's because poorer people are more modest, more humble, and take less for granted than American born poor people.

Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by jheriko on Thursday December 31, 2015 @02:31AM (#10816671)
the idea that there is large scale organised bullying of migrant workers is so fantastic - i struggle to understand how people can realistically believe these things if they have much real world experience.

i'm sure it happens, but its not the common case... its certainly not organised on the scale that people make out. it would be very difficult to make that sort of thing happen whilst making it in the best interest of everyone involved to not expose it for their own gain... it would tear itself apart from the inside or get caught out very quickly.

Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by rdtsc on Thursday December 31, 2015 @02:52AM (#10816725)
> the idea that there is large scale organised bullying of migrant workers is so fantastic

Wait, did I say that? Did you respond to the wrong comment?

Re:'All You Americans Are Fired' by jheriko on Monday January 04, 2016 @05:46PM (#10839340)
> They are productive because they are scared.

that and its context very heavily implies that this is the case, otherwise it explains nothing.