Re:The Closed Mind of Richard Dawkins (2014)
by TrevorJ on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @06:14PM
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Your argument assumes a level of understanding in cosmology and physics that does not currently exist. The standard model, as it stands is incomplete and does not predict all observable phenomena, it is intellectually dishonest to imply that we have fundamentally answered these questions empirically.
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Re:The Closed Mind of Richard Dawkins (2014)
by jbssm on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @07:39PM
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I'm sorry, but it's your level of understanding in cosmology and physics that is the problem here.
1 - I'm not claiming that the standard model is the ultimate mode. I'm just claiming that following the assumption of the Big Bang which is part of the standard model, then the existence of a God before the creation of the universe is a de facto impossibility.
2 - Something that may or may not exist outside our universe, can't have any influence or even be able to observe our universe. This, is not a theory, it's the definition of Universe. Thereby, the most your could say from the Plato's cave allegory, was that a God created the cave, but that the rest of the world where that God was must have existed before he himself came to exit.
Re:The Closed Mind of Richard Dawkins (2014)
by TrevorJ on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @08:45PM
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The key difference in our viewpoint here is that you take the standard model as dogma, and I do not. It is incomplete, subject to amendment as new facts are discovered as any good scientific model should be The logical progressions of our arguments diverge from there, understandable so.