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Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by robmiller on Tuesday December 29, 2015 @06:12PM (#10809685)
I wrote about this on Quora [1] some time ago. Here are the highlights on some ways to check if the unit you're touring has an above average acoustical design without just making noise in an adjacent unit:

(1) Is the floor construction concrete and steel or a wood joist system. The concrete/steel building type is preferred. A caveat is if it is a "loft" style with no ceiling (drywall, etc) and is open to the concrete structure for reasons I'll describe at the end.

(2) Ask if the apartment building was designed to convert to condos at some point. If the potential conversion was known during design, an acoustics professional may have been involved.

(3) Is the space marketed as "luxury?" While dangerous to trust marketing this much, if legitimately so, should have "above norm" acoustical separation between spaces.

(4) Pull a wall plate off a switch that's in a demising wall between units and look for fiberglass in the wall cavity around the edges of the backbox. You may be able to knock on walls and tell if they're hollow or fiberglass filled. If you find two layers of drywall between the plate and backbox, that's a good sign.

(5) Often the bathroom/toilet plumbing is along the corridor wall in newer buildings. Can you hear the water running from the corridor? If so, you can expect to hear the neighbors' plumbing above your unit too. Listen for water hissing in the walls while you run the kitchen sink.

Yes there's noise through walls from adjacent neighbors, but be aware of impact noises above. If floors are hard (not carpet) expect to hear footfall noise unless a resilient underlayment was properly installed in the units and/or the ceiling is isolated in the unit below. If the unit has hardwood floors, check for a gap between the baseboard trim and the floor by running a business card between. If it doesn't fit, then the resilient floor is compromised and your neighbors below are likely to hear your footfalls, and chances are you will hear your neighbors' above too.

[1] https://www.quora.com/When-renting-an-apartment-how-can-I-te...

Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by turar on Tuesday December 29, 2015 @10:28PM (#10810527)
At this point, if I ever have to look at living in apartments/condos again, I will limit my search only to concrete high rise buildings. Which usually means at least 8 floors or taller -- I don't think it's possible to build that tall with plywood garbage.
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by 15353535 on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @05:46AM (#10811579)
I lived in a concrete high rise recently and it wasn't very nice. It didn't feel like a home, more like an office. There was noise from the plumbing and the car park was so noisey I couldn't use it because the ventilation system was almost as loud as a jet engine.

I am moving into a brand new 3 story building made with concrete slab floors and masonry block walls. It has nice high ceilings and I got the best corner with only 1 shared wall, lots of Windows and natural light, and quiet street. Unfortunately, it is very rare to find an apartment this good.

Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by manigandham on Friday January 01, 2016 @03:29PM (#10823248)
Why can't you use the car park? The noise prevents you from parking your car there?
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by robmiller on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @01:31AM (#10811052)
Honestly, I would too. Having plywood subfloors might be ok if they topped it with gypcrete, but living with floor squeaks and footfalls from another tenant above is no fun.

Plywood has it's place in economical housing that's earthquake safe. The shame is just if the market rent is high enough that better construction could have been afforded by the developer in the first place.

Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @05:38AM (#10811563)
Sounds like the entire of Japan, no wonder you have to take your shoes off before entering. All in China is concrete, I don't think I've ever heard my neighbors above me. However, I remember in my old place, they had a small dog and I heard his paws all the time. Never people feet, just paws (well, we are supposed to take off our shoes here also, floors are all hardwood, no carpet in the entire country).
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by amalag on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @11:03AM (#10812565)
Gypcrete is better than plain old floors and probably the best that can be done with wood framing.
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by lgieron on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @09:41AM (#10812191)
That won't be enough unfortunately - a lot of solid brick/concrete buildings have cheap non-load-bearing walls.
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by timcederman on Tuesday December 29, 2015 @10:36PM (#10810551)
Or do what I used to do - just ask the neighbours what the noise is like.
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by kuschku on Tuesday December 29, 2015 @07:10PM (#10809957)
What for buildings that are brick-on-mortar?
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by robmiller on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @01:27AM (#10811040)
I presume this is the exterior facade? What's the interior construction?
Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by kuschku on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @07:53AM (#10811851)
Chalk-Sandstone bricks on common mortar interior, it’s the most common interior construction here.

The exterior is clay bricks on mortar.

Re:Dear Architects: Sound Matters by robmiller on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @08:32PM (#10815603)
I'm not familiar with the details of this construction, but in general massive building materials (concrete, CMU, brick) are your friend. The risks are penetrations through these materials for pipes and electrical conduit or other openings at the top of wall.

It would make for a good blog post to talk about how mass relates to sound blocking between spaces and how we've learned to "hack" wall partitions using mass-air-mass assemblies (like standard drywall walls) instead of just mass alone.