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Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by zodiac on Sunday December 27, 2015 @09:54AM (#10797570)
Is it possible to set up a mirror of debian core repositories that do use cumulative diff, so that end users can use that repository instead?

I'd be happy to try and configure/host such a thing if there's no difficulties.

Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by saurik on Sunday December 27, 2015 @10:11AM (#10797615)
Someone just needs to talk to the Debian people about fixing this. Honestly, I thought this was fixed two years ago, but a friend of mine (one who works in the Cydia ecosystem, ironically), was complaining about diff updates a couple weeks ago, and it turns out it was not. I mostly outsourced "upstreaming to distributions" (as opposed to to projects) to a friend of mine who now works for RightScale, and so I never really gained for myself the right contacts in that beurocracy, but if no one else does I should probably get around to sending this suggestion to them...
Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by sandGorgon on Sunday December 27, 2015 @01:49PM (#10798310)
Just asking, have you gotten one of the Debian CTTE guys to file a top level proposal (just like the systemd proposal https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708).

I think you are one of the few people that truly understand the ecosystem and probably are the right person to influence this.

Incidentally, I had a pretty interesting bthread today on the question bwhether we will see a single package manager format on Linux. Wonder what your thoughts are...and in general the state of package management on Linux. Would you build Cydia on something else today?

Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by JoshTriplett on Sunday December 27, 2015 @07:57PM (#10799312)
The technical committee isn't necessary unless you've already asked and been told "no".

The ftpmasters and the apt maintainers would be the appropriate pair of contacts.

Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by kasabali on Sunday December 27, 2015 @07:58PM (#10799314)
CTTE is when you have a dispute over a technical decision. From my reading above comments, there is no conflict but just lack of interest.
Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by julian-klode on Monday December 28, 2015 @06:59PM (#10804257)
You don't really need cumulative diffs anymore. Sure, they would be nice to have, but with pipelining and client-side merging of the patches before applying, things are not that much slower.
Re:Much faster incremental apt updates by julian-klode on Friday January 08, 2016 @05:24PM (#10868781)
I have to take that back. For Contents-Source, it's ugly. The rest is fine though.