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Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by banku_brougham on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:31PM (#10780207)
Not time to go wobbly when constitutional liberties are at stake.
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by TallGuyShort on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @05:03PM (#10780676)
Their point is that it's more free than that alternative of life imprisonment for comparable crimes which is already well-established and completely legal. How is that remotely wobbly?
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by Eldarrion on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @06:04PM (#10780973)
It is incredibly wobbly considering it is not being used as an alternative to life imprisonment, but as an addition to sentence already being served or already finished.
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by tired_man on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @04:45PM (#10780594)
How wobbly would it seem if he moved next door to you and your family?

There is a reason people scream to prevent parole and scream to have life sentences for sexual predators, my friend.

Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by mhuffman on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @05:08PM (#10780699)
Once you have the laws, the "wobbliness" as a weakness becomes apparent.

Go see how many people are on lifetime lists as sexual offenders because they got caught pissing in the woods. Or someone saw them naked in their own house through their own window (I didn't make that up).

I don't think anyone would disagree about the clear-cut cases (child rapists... actually any rapists), but once you give the government a powerful tool that follows you your entire life they tend to abuse it.

I would be more comfortable if a committee of trained medical professionals put people on lists or GPS trackers, vs. judges or DAs.

Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by anigbrowl on Wednesday December 30, 2015 @06:33PM (#10815115)
I don't think anyone would disagree about the clear-cut cases

That's where the problem lies. It's very easy to get agreement on such things based on fear rather than probability. You're so worried about giving the government power to make someone wear a monitoring bracelet that you're willing to trade lifelong incarceration on a smaller number of people against the possibility.

I would be more comfortable if a committee of trained medical professionals put people on lists or GPS trackers, vs. judges or DAs.

What do you think that court-ordered psychiatric evaluations are for, if not to get the input of trained medical professionals for use in the deliberations of trained legal professionals?

Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by tired_man on Monday December 28, 2015 @01:06PM (#10802400)
re: the committee:

As would I, but after reading and listening to the ridiculous statements and ideas from the current batch of "social justice warrior" types, I think the rapists would be back on the street quicker than they are now. Medical professionals are no more immune to this trend of lunacy than are any other people.

I agree that there are too many asinine reasons for being placed on the lists. Who is to blame for that? The lawmakers? The people who elected simpletons? The people who'd rather leave a sexual sadist locked in cage forever? Certainly not those who'd as soon have such a being immediately hung after sentencing.

If there was as cure them, a way to prevent it from happening, I'd be happy. But this is why there are so many no-go zones for sexual offenders. Everyone says NIMBY, but aren't willing to do anything concrete to fix the issue besides add even more laws upon the ones that already result in lax sentencing.

Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by mindslight on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @05:02PM (#10780667)
Why not simply advocate for killing them then? I'm not personally arguing for this, but it would be more honest than purporting to settle on a fixed term while actually creating a shadow life sentence.
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by jfoutz on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @05:34PM (#10780829)
It's also completely abandoning any notion of rehabilitation. Prison, in no sense, rehabilitates people, but at least some level of redemption should be possible. It seems as though prison no longer pays back the convict's debt to society.
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by tptacek on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @08:41PM (#10781534)
There may be no approach to rehabilitating serial child rapists that will not in some way shock our conscience.
Re:EFF to Court: Lifetime GPS Tracking Violates the Fourth A... by jfoutz on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @10:17PM (#10781758)
Then make it capital offense, or a life sentence. I'd be willing to accept that certain kinds of criminals can't be rehabilitated. But (apparently) some jury of his peers decided 15 years + psychiatric care was enough.

I don't care so much what the rules are, I care that the rules are consistent