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Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by gkop on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @02:59PM (#10779981)
How is MapZen's international geocoding? I couldn't find info on their website saying how good their coverage is of different countries and languages.
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by dianashk on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:05PM (#10780026)
It's built on open data sets, including OpenStreetMap and OpenAddresses. In populated areas coverage is really good. Thanks to OpenAddresses, several countries have full address coverage. You can see the coverage map on openaddresses.io. New data gets added as these open data sources grow.
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @06:26PM (#10781063)
Why does OpenAddress need to exist separately from OSM? Can address geocoding data not be properly represented in OSM?
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by randyme on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @06:42PM (#10781110)
OpenAddresses is a directory of publicly available address lists provided by government agencies at various levels. It's designed to be bulk imported by machine.

Many addresses exist in OSM. But there's a preference from the OSM community that data be entered by users familiar with their areas, that they can verify on the ground. Imports have happened in OSM, such as the controversial TIGER import in the US years ago, and the NYC building dataset more recently. But these require a lot of effort and attention to manage well.

Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @07:36PM (#10781332)
So could OpenAddresses be merged into OSM at some point? Would that make sense?
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by dianashk on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @08:04PM (#10781430)
It's not out of the question, however there are many obstacles to overcome, such as licensing, validation, and the fact that the OSM community generally insists on manually entered data.

I've heard many folks push for consolidation of various open data projects, so they aren't "competing" for contributions. However the reality is that they are currently very different and each serves to bridge a very specific gap.

In the meantime, it makes a lot of sense for projects relying on open data to pull all of these sources in, as Mapzen Search is doing, to ensure the best possible coverage.

Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by legulere on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @03:09PM (#10785344)
That's the wrong question - the question is wether the sources from OpenAddresses can be merged into OSM. I know of at least Denmark that there was some address import.
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by randyme on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:03PM (#10780015)
Mapzen uses only open data, in particular OpenStreetMap and OpenAddresses (http://openaddresses.io/). This means anyone can improve the results and always have access to the data if something's missing.
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by gkop on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:05PM (#10780025)
How is it different than a hosted Nominatim then?

Edit: I see they're using https://github.com/pelias/pelias .

Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by randyme on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:11PM (#10780062)
Nominatim, which I worked with at MapQuest Open when it launched, is a great geocoder for purely OSM data. We built Pelias (https://github.com/pelias) at Mapzen because Nominatim is not built to handle autocomplete. We also wanted to start with a fulltext search engine -- Elasticsearch in this case -- instead of Postgres with search logic on top of it. We also wanted to search other open datasets like the fast-growing OpenAddresses.

We host Pelias at Mapzen and you can check out the autocomplete as well as fulltext search here: https://mapzen.com/projects/search

Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by voltagex_ on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @04:23PM (#10780481)
Offtopic, but what do you think about MapBox and CartoDB? Do you see them as competitors?
Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by randyme on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @05:12PM (#10780725)
They're great and we have many friends at both companies. Our main goal is to get map data and software into the open so others working toward that goal are not really competitors.

If there's overlap, I don't see why that's a bad thing. The geo industry has had the problem of too few options for a while. More options are a good thing.

Re:Search up to 10K addresses with free holiday batch geocod... by gkop on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @03:19PM (#10780133)
Thanks for explaining!