Re:Table shame eliminator
by cstejerean on Friday February 01, 2008 @12:30AM
(#107692)
If you have a bunch of full time designers on staff let them toy with CSS all day long to get the right layout. Otherwise take the PG approach and treat HTML as object code.
Re:Table shame eliminator
by olavk on Friday February 01, 2008 @08:59AM
(#107809)
A better (serious) solution would be to transform the layout based on the user agent. For IE generate tables, for any other UA generate divs with the appropriate CSS using display:table. Everyone is happy!
Re:Table shame eliminator
by zach on Friday February 01, 2008 @03:08AM
(#107728)
A lot better than using Flex, I'm going to guess.
Okay, seriously, here's my question to startup website developers. Is it wise for us to spend significant time trying to avoid using tables in our often-changing layouts, in the hope that a blind user may have a slightly less confusing experience? I'm not quite going to say YAGNI, but I will say I'm not convinced.
If you're serious about accessibility, good for you -- use VoiceOver or JAWS, truly check your site out. It's a lot more laudable a goal than having your HTML perfectly pass some XHTML validator. Otherwise, I think it's one of those things we can sensibly put on hold until after our B rounds.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html#q2
the problem, as always, is Internet Explorer.
Plus, you have to use "float," which if you think about it means you're really just pushing the dirt under the CSS rug.
Isn't that what CSS is all about?
Okay, seriously, here's my question to startup website developers. Is it wise for us to spend significant time trying to avoid using tables in our often-changing layouts, in the hope that a blind user may have a slightly less confusing experience? I'm not quite going to say YAGNI, but I will say I'm not convinced.
If you're serious about accessibility, good for you -- use VoiceOver or JAWS, truly check your site out. It's a lot more laudable a goal than having your HTML perfectly pass some XHTML validator. Otherwise, I think it's one of those things we can sensibly put on hold until after our B rounds.
I find no value in this "feel good" proposition...
We hope to add several additional absurd coding solutions in the future -- already have a couple in the works.