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Re:Choosing Cloud Foundry for the UK Government's Platform a... by EngineerBetter on Saturday December 19, 2015 @01:01PM (#10764258)
Agreed on both points. I find it interesting that the properties of Bosh are clear strengths when present in other systems; if what Bosh does is so intrinsically good, why didn't it take over the world? Because it's a PITA to use.

That's meant more of a musing than a passive-aggressive complaint BTW. As someone that's scaled the "Bosh learning cliff" I'd like to see it used more widely.

Re:Choosing Cloud Foundry for the UK Government's Platform a... by twic on Saturday December 19, 2015 @02:43PM (#10764591)
How about taking what's good about BOSH and carrying that forward into something better? What could be added to Terraform or PaaSTA or something to make it as good as BOSH?
Re:Choosing Cloud Foundry for the UK Government's Platform a... by helloiamaperson on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:15PM (#10764869)
Terraform's model (local state files) is not something that works well, in my opinion. Since AWS doesn't know that you want some operations done "transactionally" (like with CloudFormation), you can easily end up with a half built env that needs to be cleaned up. PaaSTa is more of a CF competitor, as far as I know, not really at the same abstraction level. I think that it would be a lot easier to clean up the UX/marketing of BOSH than doing the opposite.
Re:Choosing Cloud Foundry for the UK Government's Platform a... by jacques_chester on Saturday December 19, 2015 @05:41PM (#10765174)
Have you looked at bosh.io? It's being actively worked on by our designers and engineers, I bet that feedback would be welcome. If you email me I can put you in touch with them.