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Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by Buge on Saturday December 19, 2015 @03:48AM (#10763058)
Wow that nation state is stupid.

They embedded the backdoor password right into it. Clearly they should have embedded the hash of the password instead. Then it would be unbreakable and no other party would be able to use the backdoor.

Hashing passwords is extremely basic security practice.

Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by omni on Saturday December 19, 2015 @05:28AM (#10763209)
When you're trying to do something secretly, you run into a new tradeoff: doing it the right way vs. doing it in such a way that it doesn't draw attention to itself. It might have been the case that hashing it would have been too flashy.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by relkor on Saturday December 19, 2015 @09:02AM (#10763567)
I would imagine it would hook into the existing code that is hashing the passwords... Which suggests that they are not in fact hashing the user inputs and are relying on the client to do that for them.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by coldtea on Saturday December 19, 2015 @07:57AM (#10763444)
>They embedded the backdoor password right into it

Or you know, that's just one obvious backdoor they put in, to divert from the other 2-3 non-obvious they have.

Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by Buge on Saturday December 19, 2015 @02:41PM (#10764586)
But one thing the NSA likes to say is that the backdoors they insert are only accessible to them, not to others. For example the DUAL_EC backdoor could only be exploited by the NSA. With this backdoor, now China and everyday criminals can also use it.

I see the benefit of inserting multiple backdoors. But none of them should be vulnerable to rival nations.

Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by coldtea on Sunday December 20, 2015 @09:44AM (#10767140)
>But one thing the NSA likes to say is that the backdoors they insert are only accessible to them, not to others.

Which is an empty statement when it comes to security principles. If you've placed a backdoor (and some are blatantly obvious if you look for it, like some SSL issues), then others can use it too. Most backdoors are not of the "we have an encrypted password only we know" variety, but of the purposeful hole to exploit.

>I see the benefit of inserting multiple backdoors. But none of them should be vulnerable to rival nations.

Except if the idea is to monitor the local population, and you do not care that much if others monitor them too.

Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go... by hueving on Saturday December 19, 2015 @02:48PM (#10764613)
That's not a good idea if you're hiding a backdoor. The last thing you want is for people to have a reason to audit the code base.