Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by mjs on Saturday December 19, 2015 @03:25AM
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You're still secure if you use https. If neither your computer nor the host you're connecting to has been tampered with, then you're safe irrespective of what's happening between.
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Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by jlgaddis on Saturday December 19, 2015 @05:14AM
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I get where you're coming from and I want to agree with you but...
While that used to be true, based upon recent history we, unfortunately, can't blindly trust HTTPS to always be "secure" 100% of the time anymore -- whether due to things like Heartbleed, fake certs signed by a root CA, protocol attacks, or some other vulnerability that hasn't even been discovered yet.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by nickodell on Saturday December 19, 2015 @03:32AM
(#10763041)
Well, what if the host you're connecting to is a Juniper firewall?
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by toyg on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:02AM
(#10763073)
Yeah, because illegitimate / spoofed certificates will never happen...
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by andreyf on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:42AM
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I think we're well on our way to a point where certificates can be mostly trusted. Of course certs can be stolen, but I would bet that "spoofed" certificates will soon be an occurrence of the past.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by Ao7bei3s on Saturday December 19, 2015 @05:07AM
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With certificate transparency, at least we'll know about it - afterwards, at least.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by marcosdumay on Saturday December 19, 2015 @09:25AM
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Well, afterwards, if the attack stops (software does not need to stop) in a timeframe short enough for your computer to no clear its history.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by hcf on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:03AM
(#10763077)
Many https sites use RC4, I wouldn't be so sure.
Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by netheril96 on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:29AM
(#10763129)
Then use a browser that rejects RC4 (like latest Chrome).
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Re:Secret Code Found in Juniper's Firewalls Shows Risk of Go...
by Robin_Message on Saturday December 19, 2015 @04:54AM
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The private key is used to negotiate a session key, which is then used as the symmetric key for RC4 or whatever stream or block cipher you are using. Those session keys are ephemeral and per-session, so leaking them is only a problem for those sessions.
(Also, since it's a stream cipher, it can't use the same key ever again, else you can xor those ciphertexts to get 2 xored plaintexts, which are much easier to crack.)