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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by SteveLAnderson on Thursday December 17, 2015 @12:38PM (#10752898)
Exactly. When Australia changed their gun laws, the suicide rate went down by 65%.
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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by refurb on Thursday December 17, 2015 @01:04PM (#10753101)
Yet Japan has one of the highest suicide rates and almost no gun ownership!

Also, prior to enacting gun control, Australia's non-firearm suicide rate doubled (1980-1996) while firearm suicide was cut in half.

Not sure there is any correlation.

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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by SteveLAnderson on Thursday December 17, 2015 @01:18PM (#10753212)
You may not be sure, but the researchers that study this subject are sure - http://andrewleigh.org/pdf/GunBuyback_Panel.pdf

And for the US - http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2013/1...

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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by refurb on Thursday December 17, 2015 @01:42PM (#10753417)
It's not just me, it's other researchers as well.[1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#Measurin...

"The results of these tests suggest that the NFA did not have any large effects on reducing firearm homicide or suicide rates."[61]"

"The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide. Data suggest that a change in social and cultural attitudes could have contributed to the shift in method preference.[60]"

I wouldn't assume that it's settled.

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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by SteveLAnderson on Thursday December 17, 2015 @03:41PM (#10754372)
The paper I linked to discussed both of those papers and corrects errors made in them.
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Re:Guns are now killing as many people as cars in the U.S by refurb on Thursday December 17, 2015 @07:58PM (#10755891)
Care to point it out?

The table I'm looking at says firearm suicides dropped by 50% prior to the gun buyback.

I'd argue the decrease in overall suicides is a general trend happened to coincide with the gun buyback.

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