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Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by snowwrestler on Sunday December 13, 2015 @12:43AM (#10725532)
Saying that OS X has "training wheels" just basically discounts you from a comparative discussion of OS's in my opinion. It's substance-free denigration that adds nothing to the conversation.

If there are parts of OS X that you don't like, fine, post about those, specifically.

Adobe products run fine on Windows, in fact Premiere runs better on Windows than Mac. But the parent was comparing Macs to Linux, and Adobe does not run on Linux at all.

Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by pdex on Sunday December 13, 2015 @11:51AM (#10726850)
There is nothing denigrating about using "training wheels" as an analogy, Apple's bread and butter are media consumers and not developers, in my experience it shows in the OS."Training wheels" are for kids to learn how to ride a bike without hurting themselves, similarly Mac OS is primarily geared towards providing a "safe" home computer experience to the computer illiterate media consumers where user is protected from destroying their system by being passively prohibitive. These "training wheels" are particularly irritating although they can be worked around, but they also make simple tasks far more complicated than they need to be this is rather frustrating/irritating for some developers. All platforms have their share of problems.
Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by snowwrestler on Monday December 14, 2015 @09:44AM (#10731220)
> Apple's bread and butter are media consumers and not developers, in my experience it shows in the OS.

I mean, have you been to a developer conference lately? That wasn't a Microsoft conference? Did you happen to see any Macs there?

> Mac OS is primarily geared towards providing a "safe" home computer experience to the computer illiterate media consumers where user is protected from destroying their system by being passively prohibitive.

OS X has shipped with a complete Unix shell since 2001. Pretty much every dangerous command you can think of on Linux will execute the same way in Terminal.

Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by pdex on Thursday December 17, 2015 @11:41AM (#10752491)
>I mean, have you been to a developer conference lately? That wasn't a Microsoft conference? Did you happen to see any Macs there?

I haven't been to a MS developer conference and saw a mix of platforms at all other conferences I've been to. Have you actually watched apple's product launches? Ever notice the media consumer is whom they are marketing to?

>OS X has shipped with a complete Unix shell since 2001. Pretty much every dangerous command you can think of on Linux will execute the same way in Terminal.

There is so much more to an OS than terminal, so it's not all that matters. I suppose if one only worked 100% out of terminal and nothing else it would be a non-issue.

Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by snowwrestler on Friday December 18, 2015 @10:49AM (#10759027)
This Apple product launch was for consumers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w87fOAG8fjk

Again: if there are aspects of OS X you don't like, that's fine. There are certainly some things that I don't like. But the idea that it's somehow got "training wheels" and is therefore not suitable for developers, is just not supported by any evidence.

Re:Ask HN: Why did OS X win out over Linux for so many devel... by pdex on Friday December 18, 2015 @06:23PM (#10761669)
You're offended by the term, but I assure you I'm being quite objective- the "safety measures/training wheels" clearly exist. Why is it that you feel it's not suitable for developers? I'm curious because I never said that, but you did.