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Re:Artificial intelligence risk research by jerf on Saturday December 12, 2015 @08:42PM (#10725056)
That doesn't even rise to the level of proof-by-disbelief; it's proof by hypothetical future disbelief. You've given no more reason to be confident in your hypothetical than the concerns about hypothetical self-improving AIs.

You're failing to sell this argument to someone generally inclined to agree with you about the outcome.

Re:Artificial intelligence risk research by andreyf on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:57PM (#10725221)
What is proof-by-disbelief? I'm not trying to prove that HGI is impossible, nor do I think it's impossible.

However, until one proposes a concrete methodology for modeling the world which includes the method that is doing the modeling (self-awareness), a decision making process, and a way to take action autonomously and without intervention, it's very hard to talk generally about preventing catastrophic bugs.