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Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by forrestthewoods on Saturday December 12, 2015 @02:39PM (#10723861)
What if they support Sharia law in place of American law?
Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by transfire on Saturday December 12, 2015 @02:50PM (#10723897)
This is really a false argument. The way it works is this. In so far as Sharia law is compatible with county, state and federal laws, it can be practiced. In so far that is not, it cannot. It's that simple. Many small regions have their own local laws, e.g. suburbs, condos, Mormons, Amish, etc.
Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by forrestthewoods on Saturday December 12, 2015 @03:09PM (#10723945)
Ok. And portions of Sharia law are not compatible with country, state, and federal laws. There are people who believe that full Sharia law should apply to Muslims. And some who believe that full Sharia law should apply to non-Muslims as well. I would consider these stances to fall foul of "giving it on all occasions their effectual support".

Now on one hand everyone supports potential laws that are not laws. That's how new laws get passed. Something wasn't legal. The public said it should be. And it was. For example gay marriage.

On the other hand some people think it should be legal to murder an apostate. Codifying these differences in language is difficult. But that doesn't mean they aren't different and should not be treated as such.

Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by simoncion on Saturday December 12, 2015 @03:46PM (#10724070)
What -precisely- are you trying to say?

Stop for a few minutes and try to distill your argument to its essence, then take some time writing an explanation of that argument as clearly as you are able to.

Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by simoncion on Sunday December 13, 2015 @09:00AM (#10726352)
This is amusing. Apparently people took umbrage at an earnest suggestion that a fellow stop for a few minutes to collect his thoughts and phrase his argument in a way that makes it maximally effective. :D
Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by DanBC on Saturday December 12, 2015 @03:06PM (#10723940)
About the same as when Jewish people support Beth Din in place of American law - it's fine so long as American law is also respected.

(There are problems with religious legal systems of women not being able to get divorces; of abused women not getting help and support; and of abused children not getting help and support and the abusers not facing justice).

Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by forrestthewoods on Saturday December 12, 2015 @03:27PM (#10724001)
That's a lot of dancing to avoid condemning hateful, repressive beliefs. We condemn hateful, racist bigots all the time. Rightfully so. Just because said hate is derived from religion does not excuse it from condemnation.
Re:How Jefferson and other Founding Fathers defended Muslim ... by simoncion on Saturday December 12, 2015 @03:43PM (#10724062)
> That's a lot of dancing to avoid condemning hateful, repressive beliefs.

I guess I missed the dance party. All I see is the statement:

"Any US citizen may maintain their own practices just so long as those practices are compatible with US law."

Seems pretty simple and clear to me.