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Re:Pixel C by Zigurd on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @02:37PM (#10698811)
Not that I have anything against Surface, but, despite all the effort, it still isn't a touch-first device. And Windows isn't a touch-first OS. IPad will vastly outsell it, and despite Google doing a crap job marketing Android to businesses, so will Android tablets. That's because Windows tablets have never been touch-first, and a great finger-touch UX is what characterizes mobile devices.
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Re:Pixel C by djsumdog on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @03:05PM (#10699038)
It's really cause no one wrote any Windows apps, and a lot of the ones that were written have been removed because the respective companies don't want to maintain them. The Kindle reader for my Windows Mobile phone was sooooo buggy.

If it had the apps to back it, Windows would have been okay as a touch OS. But that whole thing totally failed.

Microsoft should have put the Courrier table into production. It was ready to go. That one move totally killed any chance at Microsoft making it into the tablet realm (and really set them back 2 ~ 3 years as a consumer tech company)

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Re:Pixel C by Zigurd on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @08:43PM (#10701324)
> Microsoft should have put the Courrier table into production.

Yes, yes, yes. Like iOS and Android it would have been born a touch device. Killing Courier makes buying Nokia's handset business Ballmer's second worst decision.

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Re:Pixel C by dman on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @02:51PM (#10698928)
In Windows 10 tablet mode the Surface is a great tablet. Once I got the Surface pro 4 its completely displaced ipad usage for me.
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Re:Pixel C by JeremyNT on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @03:54PM (#10699429)
What you describe is an "issue" I have with the Surface Pro 3: I always want to just use the physical keyboard. I eventually put Linux on it and I now use it as a normal laptop, using the touch input only occasionally (admittedly, support for touch within GNOME is worse than even Metro's efforts).

These hybrid touch devices that have "optional" keyboards can't seem to decide what they want to be, and I don't think this is actually a software problem in the case of Windows devices which seem capable enough in either "mode." Rather, I think if people are actually given the option of using a keyboard and a touchpad to do any non-trivial task, I expect most of them will do so. At which point... how is this tablet with a keyboard attached to it worth owning when one can get a small laptop?

Even at the height of my "Give Metro a Chance" phase with the SP3, relying exclusively on touch was at best a kind of awkward stopgap until I could position myself to use the physical keyboard. Sticking with touch only makes nothing easier, except in situations where your interactions with the device are limited by your physical surroundings.

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