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Re:The assault on neurosurgeons’ privileges by software and ... by vacri on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:14PM (#10694537)
I had a similar reaction to the piece, which painted doctors as not being part of the problem - when they have a profound amount of political power.

I had a friend who worked as a QA engineer (hospital processes) for a presitigious children's hospital. The QA department came up with any number of potential, well-conceived plans, but the falling-down point was always the doctors. One of the primary pain points was the lack of interoperability between different departments' record-keeping. Each department head had their favourite vendor, who would give them all sorts of goodies on the side, and as such, none of them wanted to change.

So, you'd have a heads of department meeting where the new QA plan would be discussed, which necessitated regularising the software across departments. The standard refutation was "If I can't use software X, children will die". Everyone knew this was utter bullshit, but there's nothing you can do when the head of department is considered the final domain expert. "Children will die", uttered by doctors and surgeons, killed more efficient processes in that hospital.

Another story of his was at another meeting where one specialist ventured an opinion. It was derided by one of the old-school, a veteran of nearly 30 years: "We don't do things that way; you'd know that if you'd been here any length of time". Said the opinion-venturer: "I've been here 17 years". That is one insular society...

Re:The assault on neurosurgeons’ privileges by software and ... by paviva on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:30PM (#10694592)
The difference between doctors and engineers is that doctors indeed know which parts of the workflow are critical, and which will indeed cause children to die.

To this date, I'm not aware of any record-keeping software that's at least half as useful and efficient as the old and tried handwritten paper records.

There were only three useful IT innovations in medicine : (a) PACS [1] allows to easily compare and transmit X-rays; (b) lab work records; (c) appointments software.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture_archiving_and_communic...

Re:The assault on neurosurgeons’ privileges by software and ... by Spooky23 on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:01PM (#10694709)
Amen.

My wife had some complications after childbirth that kept her hospitalized for a few days. Watching the staff fuck around with 3-4 EMRs to figure out what happened when was a ridiculous comedy of errors. It actually undermined my confidence in the medical staff -- they really struggled between shifts.

In the old days, the information was available at a glance, on a clipboard.