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Re:Google, Microsoft, Comcast Say Verizon’s New Cellular Tec... by gst on Monday December 07, 2015 @02:14PM (#10691864)
I have quite a bit of networking knowledge and also used to work at an ISP for several years. Back then I wouldn't have used any router that didn't run my custom OpenWRT built with QoS settings, etc.

But times have changed: On my old ADSL line QoS made a huge difference due to congestion (and the large buffer sizes). SSH was nearly unusable while uploading a file. My current Comcast line is so fast that I don't experience any issues due to congestion - so how would I benefit from QoS?

Another difference is that in the past consumer-level hardware was just unreliable: I remember an old Netgear router that just crashed if there were too many concurrent TCP connections, as its NAT table would overflow. I haven't seen those issues in a long time now.

Re:Google, Microsoft, Comcast Say Verizon’s New Cellular Tec... by wtallis on Monday December 07, 2015 @08:15PM (#10694124)
> "My current Comcast line is so fast that I don't experience any issues due to congestion - so how would I benefit from QoS?"

Are you sure you don't have a few hundred milliseconds of bufferbloat in your cable modem, as is the case for almost all modems out there?

Re:Google, Microsoft, Comcast Say Verizon’s New Cellular Tec... by gst on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:00PM (#10694496)
No - I'm not. But my connection works well enough and I don't notice any delays on either SSH or VoIP connections. So why should I invest time/energy into changing something that doesn't affect me?
Re:Google, Microsoft, Comcast Say Verizon’s New Cellular Tec... by indlebe on Tuesday December 08, 2015 @02:06PM (#10698562)
> So why should I invest time/energy into changing something that doesn't affect me?

This argument has a place here, but it has a cringe effect each time I see it. I find it a dangerous one if applied to other circumstances.