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Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by the_mitsuhiko on Sunday December 06, 2015 @02:05PM (#10686159)
>I am at a tiny German ISP, got a new contract one year ago, and have a publicly routable IP.

You have one IP, not one per computer. Thus your router becomes a NAT for the devices you have internally.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by kuschku on Sunday December 06, 2015 @02:19PM (#10686211)
I can, if I want to, as I said, order multiple IPs, for multiple devices.

Currently I only have one, as I don’t need more, but I can easily get one per computer.

Just like I can get one phone number per room.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by the_mitsuhiko on Sunday December 06, 2015 @02:21PM (#10686224)
> I can, if I want to, as I said, order multiple IPs, for multiple devices.

Very few ISPs let you do that and if they do, continuous blocks are really expensive these days, even for servers. For end user networks it's even less likely that you get them. Maybe in the states, but not in Europe. In Germany especially there are many ISPs that do not give you any IP address any more but have a carrier side NAT unless you call phone support or switch it in a panel somewhere and then you get exactly one dynamic IP that rotates every 24 hours.

If you have an ISP that gives you anything larger than /24 I would really like to hear which one that is.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by kuschku on Sunday December 06, 2015 @02:23PM (#10686231)
Try looking for ISPs whose main business is hosting and business lines, for which home users are just a side business ;)

Those, like TNG, often offer far better contracts.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by the_mitsuhiko on Sunday December 06, 2015 @02:44PM (#10686301)
> Try looking for ISPs whose main business is hosting and business lines, for which home users are just a side business ;)

First of all we're reaching the point where we basically discuss a tiny part of the overall space and as such this is not even relevant to the original point any more.

Secondly, the ISP you named (TNG) does not appear to even give out blocks for customers.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by kuschku on Sunday December 06, 2015 @03:03PM (#10686369)
The claim I made, that most ISPs at least provide one IP per customer, so you personally can use one device with a public IP, is still true.

The "small ISPs give out multiple IPs on request" is a different, but related part.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by the_mitsuhiko on Sunday December 06, 2015 @03:15PM (#10686400)
Then we are discussing about completely different aspects because I was talking about an owned block which would be the only way to avoid a NAT on your side.
Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by kuschku on Sunday December 06, 2015 @03:38PM (#10686477)
An ISP can give you a bunch of separate, but still static IPs. That’s too rare.

It’s effectively like the standard 24h dynamic IPs, just that they never change them. You don’t own the IP, but are still guaranteed to be reachable under it.

Re:Examining IPv6 Performance by eeZi on Sunday December 06, 2015 @05:06PM (#10686873)
Unitymedia in Germany no longer gives out IPv4 addresses to new customers, even if you call support.