Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by merpnderp on Thursday December 03, 2015 @12:30PM
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You make it sound like Zuckerberg's donation in Newark happened in a vacuum. It happened in tight collaboration with the school system, who stated needs and approved every step of the process. It's not like Zuckerberg stepped in and said "you shall obey!!!" Course in this case it just turned out that not only could the democratically elected government of Newark magically waste all their tax revenue, they were excellent at wasting donated money.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by HiLo on Thursday December 03, 2015 @12:34PM
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Nothing happens in a vacuum. With great power comes great responsibility - at some point billionaires can't blame their shit going wrong on other people if they were the more capable ones and clearly felt they were more capable when they set out to do this?
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by Chathamization on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:01PM
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It is ironic that school reform efforts focus so much on metrics to rate teachers and "hold them accountable." Yet, when the school reform efforts themselves fail horribly, they suddenly tell us that the metrics don't tell the whole story as they rush to find whatever scapegoat they can.
"Accountability for you, not for me" seems to be the motto of the movement.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by redblacktree on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:36PM
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You claim this donation was made in "tight collaboration with the school system," yet, CNBC and The New Yorker say that "One of the criticisms of Newark's school reform has been the lack of input from the community." [0]
These seem to be opposite view points. Do you have a source for that claim? Or perhaps you were saying something else?
[0]: http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/23/where-zuckerbergs-100-million...
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by sliverstorm on Thursday December 03, 2015 @03:48PM
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The school system and the community are not the same body. The community is all the people who live there. The school system is the administrators, teachers, & bureaucrats that run the schools.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by 6stringmerc on Thursday December 03, 2015 @12:33PM
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I do find it rather disheartening that a tech inventor and a PhD in Biology are being looked to as legitimate critics and saviors of public education.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by HiLo on Thursday December 03, 2015 @12:45PM
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This is actually a pretty solid 1-line summary of the whole problem.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by merpnderp on Thursday December 03, 2015 @12:46PM
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Makes sense as the PhD's and government "experts" in education gave us the unpopular and widely criticized No Child Left Behind and Common Core, which hasn't done anything to stem the flood of unprepared kids going to college and the work force.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by HiLo on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:01PM
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Yes, I'm sure GWB staffed his cabinet with "experts." Yes.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by merpnderp on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:09PM
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Well Obama has had 6 years to fix it. Which makes this less of a republican/democrat issue than a "why the hell aren't we copying Finland" issue. You know like why would government spend all this money on contractors and consultants to figure out a new way to do things when they could just copy a highly functional and successful system? Oh, corruption. Right.
Re:Why a German billionaire says that pledges like Mark Zuck...
by dragonwriter on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:37PM
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> Well Obama has had 6 years to fix it.
In the world where Obama was a dictator and could unilaterally rewrites statutes, sure.
In the real world, Obama had just under two years (because Congressional terms start earlier than Presidential terms) with Democratic majorities in Congress.
SPIEGEL: It is their money at the end of the day.
Krämer: In this case, 40 superwealthy people want to decide what their money will be used for. That runs counter to the democratically legitimate state. In the end the billionaires are indulging in hobbies that might be in the common good, but are very personal.
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"There’s nothing necessarily wrong with the American system of tax-subsidized charity, of course."
"The critique is that this system affords too much power to the rich, whose decisions may not align with what’s best for society. This is not to say that the government is a paragon of efficacy either, but it risks a lot to depend on a handful of mega-billionaires to be prudent, effective philanthropists."
"What genre of philanthropy will Chan and Zuckerberg invest in? Possibly anything. Their letter Tuesday set two missions, both ambitiously vague: “advancing human potential” and “promoting equality." They mention curing diseases, improving clean energy, promoting entrepreneurship, fighting poverty and hunger, empowering women and minorities, and so on.
The pair do not have a sterling track record when it comes to effective charity. One of their previous efforts, a high-profile $100 million donation to fix the schools in Newark, N.J., has been widely criticized as a failure.
Chan and Zuckerberg write in their announcement that they have learned from their past experiences with philanthropy. For now, they will start with their own community in San Francisco, focusing on education, health and “connecting people.”