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Re:Zen is boring by yters on Wednesday January 30, 2008 @01:03AM (#106702)
That's easy, what's with the mind altering substances? I've never seen the need; it isn't hard to get into a state of semi sleepiness and drift off somewhere in your imagination.
Re:Zen is boring by rms on Wednesday January 30, 2008 @01:09AM (#106703)
I am talking about having absolutely no thought in your mind, conscious or otherwise. How long can you hold yourself like that before you think of anything?
Re:Zen is boring by yters on Wednesday January 30, 2008 @01:55AM (#106713)
Depends on my mood, but I've definitely reached "nirvana" for long periods of time. It is especially easy if I'm out in nature.

The second sentence just refers to the use of mind altering drugs in general. I've done things that cause my mind to drift off without my control, and to drift off under my control, and I prefer the latter.

Re:Zen is boring by chris_l on Wednesday January 30, 2008 @05:17AM (#106756)
How can you know whether you have unconscious thoughts in your mind?
Re:Zen is boring by rms on Wednesday January 30, 2008 @05:25AM (#106758)
You can't.