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Re:Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's ... by crdoconnor on Thursday December 03, 2015 @04:49AM (#10668747)
Aluminium smelters in Germany are actually getting a big subsidy. They're varying their electricity usage based upon the output of Germany's solar/wind farms and getting paid a hefty sum to do so (possibly too much).

This is having a negative impact on other smelters across the world.

Effectively they're doing the same job we were always told batteries would do.

Re:Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's ... by greglindahl on Thursday December 03, 2015 @05:28AM (#10668864)
If they're paying a fair amount for electricity, it's not a subsidy. And it's probably not a minute-timescale change like batteries. Energy storage and batteries are quite different things.