Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's Exit from Fossil Fuels

Re:Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's ... by danieltillett on Thursday December 03, 2015 @01:56AM (#10668184)

The big victims are the owners of fossil fuel deposits and infrastructure. Have a guess who is funding all the FUD about global warming.

Personally I think we should just buy the fossil fuel owners out at current market prices and shut them down as soon as possible. FUD in this area is just too effective to counter with logic or science so lets pay them off. If we wanted to be really clever we could do a 1 for 1 swap - Exxon we are buying your oil field and here is a wind farm in return.

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Re:Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's ... by pzone on Thursday December 03, 2015 @03:02AM (#10668426)

You should stop casting these guys as villains, it obscures the main point of your argument. You would probably do the same lobbying if you were in their position. (Rather, if you were a major shareholder in Exxon, you would demand that managers do it.)

Just think of this in terms of Exxon &c having an effective negotiating position for blocking the carbon tax. We don't have to buy things at current market prices, but at a discount. Recognizing that there's room for negotiation is what everyone overlooks.

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Re:Elon Musk: Only a Carbon Tax Will Accelerate the World's ... by danieltillett on Thursday December 03, 2015 @03:49AM (#10668582)

I didn't mean to cast Exxon and co as villains, just explain why. Yes I think we need to recognise that they have a very strong hand and deal with it head on. Trying to fight them will only mean we all lose.

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