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Re:British technology company to 'transform' air and space t... by mikeash on Tuesday December 01, 2015 @01:59PM (#10657834)
Weight inefficiency basically doesn't matter if you can achieve reuse.

On an expendable rocket, every bit of inefficiency is more engine, tank, and structure that you have to rebuild for each launch. You want to minimize that. It's also extra fuel, but relative to the total cost of a launch, fuel is essentially free.

If you can reuse the rocket, then that becomes much less important. Maybe you spend 10-100x more building engines and tanks and structures than you would if you had a more efficient design, but you get to amortize that cost across many launches, so it's much less important.

Reuse is, of course, a big if. A gigantic if. The gigantic-est of all ifs. The big question is, "will it work?" If the technology simply doesn't work, or if it "works" to get to orbit but requires so much refurbishment that it's basically like building a whole new rocket each time (see: Space Shuttle), then it's not practical. But if it does work, then who cares if you drag 10x more mass to orbit than you strictly need to?

I am very much in a "I'll believe it when I see it" mode with Skylon, but to me the objections center around the the hard work of going from theory to practice, and the lack of visible progress with same.

Re:British technology company to 'transform' air and space t... by 7952 on Tuesday December 01, 2015 @02:06PM (#10657891)
But all that extra mass does eat into the payload capacity.

A craft that is 100 tonnes dry mass and delivers 20 tonnes payload needs enough fuel to boost 120 tonnes in the last part of the flight. A centaur upper stage by comparison has a mass of just 2.2 tonnes. So for most of the flight you need much more fuel to boost the same payload.

Re:British technology company to 'transform' air and space t... by mikeash on Tuesday December 01, 2015 @02:13PM (#10657938)
Who cares about needing more fuel? As I said in the original comment, fuel is basically free. If you manage to build a craft where the cost of extra fuel (even using an order of magnitude more) even becomes noticeable, you've already managed to make launches vastly cheaper than anything out there today.
Re:British technology company to 'transform' air and space t... by Gravityloss on Tuesday December 01, 2015 @02:36PM (#10658095)
Well if you have to scale bigger and bigger for the payload, the cost of personnel that you need to have with a bigger craft starts featuring very negatively. Also if you can't operate from regular runways etc.

At some point on a degrading performance curve, you don't reach orbit at all even with zero payload.