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Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by nickpsecurity on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @02:20PM (#10628989)
None of these tech-focused innovators ever mention their plan to counter the incumbents most potent weapon: lobbyists. The same way they dodged liability in ACH, etc issues all these years is the same way they'll likely counter startups.

Alternatively, they can just buy up the best-of-breed, patent their technologies, and use that to force costs up. So many ways they can play it. And they're good at eliminating threats to their profitable, predictable, status quo.

Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by btmerr on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @05:32PM (#10630189)
Hi. I'm Brian, the cofounder and CEO of Seed.

While we have strong opinions about regulatory and legislative changes that would enable innovation, it's impractical to attempt systemic disruption as a seed stage company.

Our mission is not to change banking just for the sake of it. We are focused on providing a better service for our members.

There's a lot of room for improvement, even within the current system, and by focusing on things we can do rather than things we wish we could do, we'll be able to make positive progress.

Many well meaning startups have pursued immediate disruption and have failed. Our view is that if we are successful within the current environment, we'll have a better chance of being able to help move things in a positive direction.

Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by nickpsecurity on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @11:51PM (#10631336)
Four of my coworkers agreed that this comment has excellent PR value for mainstream market. It uses a whole lot of words say basically nothing but with much optimism and faith in the company as the expected result. Well-written. :)
Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by CM30 on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @02:24PM (#10629011)
Pretty much this, unfortunately. Which means the only way to fight back is to raise enough money to counter said lobbyists and try and get the laws the other way.

That said, it's probable banking will get disrupted eventually. It's just that a large company like Google, Apple or Microsoft will probably be one of the main causes, since they have enough money to keep battling until they either become too big to stop or the incumbents give up.

Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by nickpsecurity on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @03:11PM (#10629354)
That's actually a decent possibility. Much more probable than getting all the startups to collectively, consistently fund lobbyists on their behalf. The big tech firms already do that. Google, Apple, and Facebook are already working on integrating in daily routines of users including with payments.

It would be interesting for one or more to fund a push into banking maybe leveraging a bank they bought for its expertise and infrastructure. Probably opportunities for analysis and ad targeting on top of it. Wait, "ad-supported payments via displaying them at POS kiosks." Oh, shit, did I just make up an industry on the spot or does this already happen? ;)

Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by btmerr on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @05:41PM (#10630233)
We would welcome any new entrants that sought to provide a better customer experience. All of the companies you mentioned have already entertained the idea of entering banking, but they haven't yet jumped in.

As for your other comment, apps and ATMs are already being used as an advertising channel. I wouldn't be surprised if we see (much) more of this.

Re:Is Small Business Banking Next in Line for Disruption? by nickpsecurity on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @11:55PM (#10631345)
"that sought to provide a better customer experience"

First concrete thing you've said. Always a way to get into a market crowded with incumbents, esp if account reps have personal touch. Fix anything that annoys people and $$$'s result. Good luck to you on that part as you have a good chance of making it there.

"As for your other comment, apps and ATMs are already being used as an advertising channel. I wouldn't be surprised if we see (much) more of this."

Figures haha.