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Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by meesterdude on Monday November 23, 2015 @12:55AM (#10613105)
You are not the author. Psychology is as unique as a fingerprint, and what works for you does not necessarily work for someone else. Your solution of "get a grip" is broad stroked and insensitive to the nuances of psychology, motivation and coping.
Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by voynich61 on Monday November 23, 2015 @01:07AM (#10613136)
He could just as well maintain a diet of various herbal roots. Worse, the idea derives from his flaw of procrastinating while doing nothing to solve it.
Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by titzer on Monday November 23, 2015 @04:56AM (#10613696)
I think you could have phrased this differently but there is something there. Depression is a complex and multi-faceted challenge that can have many underlying causes and is subject to a number of psychological forces. The author takes the approach of managing the superficial symptoms whereby depression makes people non-functional, but there are probably underlying causes that will reemerge in various ways down the line. Managing only the loss of productivity without addressing underlying concerns has a high likelihood of just masking the problem. They might find themselves a year or two down the line with some accomplishments but still nagging feelings of self doubt and failure.

I'd recommend "Feeling Good", a book by David M. Burns (site here: http://feelinggood.com/)

It's amazing how some very productive people lead inner lives of desperation and pain due to bad self-talk and reinforcement of negative feelings.

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by nekopa on Monday November 23, 2015 @02:19AM (#10613287)
Wow. I would think that you'd be a little more understanding. His solution is not just to do stuff. It's to get a little help when the dark days hit and he's unable to reach out for help. I'm glad you were able to man up and get a grip.

Not everyone has your perfect will power.

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Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by DanBC on Monday November 23, 2015 @02:26AM (#10613298)
Most doctors, even those working with mental health, don't believe the chemical imbalance stuff. That's why recommended first line treatment for mild to moderate depression is a talking therapy.
Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by MichaelGG on Monday November 23, 2015 @05:24AM (#10613787)
Really? That's not what any of the doctors I've or people I've dealt with have said or act like. Even my psychologist (who can't rx) was fairly insistent that without medication there was only so far she could go and refusal to take it was a problem. Then there's the fact that a lot of people end up on anti-depressants and feel much better and are happy with the result.)

(Though I agree that mental meds are fairly shitty overall. Particularly anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. And they're really heavy treatments with potentially horrible side effects, so a talking therapy makes sense as it won't, for instance, cause your skin to die and fall off unlike some meds. Docs seem sorta-OK prescribing amphetamines in combination, but vastly more hesitant to even consider opiate treatment for depression.)

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by bcarlyle on Monday November 23, 2015 @07:04AM (#10614108)
Clinical psychologist here.

The doctors I work with prescribe cognitive behavioral therapy as the first hand treatment for depression and antidepressant when therapy is ineffective (which isn't all that common).

One of the reasons that antidepressant are so widespread is that doctors are usually in charge of treatment and seldom perform therapy but are very used to prescribing medication.

Also the fact that millions of people are depressed makes it hard to give everyone access to therapy.

In my opinion it is much harder to treat a patient on antidepressant since they respond worse to treatment then a depressed patient who is not on medication.

Depression is a devastating disease but it is astounding how effective therapy can be for a lot of patients.

I regularly meet patients who are very depressed when we first meet who manage to overcome their depression in a couple of weeks.

Physical activity is also very good at treating depression.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17437199.2015.102...

If everyone would exercise the demand for therapists would be much lower.

One mistake that many depressed patients make is holding a strong view that they are a person who suffers from depression.

This keeps the patient from realising that depression is a condition caused by their interaction with the environment and that it isn't personal.

I think one problem with the article is that it seems that the person still views herself in this way instead of fully realising whatever it is that is needed for keeping him/her from becoming depressed again.

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by DanBC on Monday November 23, 2015 @01:45PM (#10616350)
There's a difference between saying "medication works" and saying "medication works by correcting a chemical imbalance".

> Docs seem sorta-OK prescribing amphetamines in combination, but vastly more hesitant to even consider opiate treatment for depression.)

Ketamine is currently experimental for major depression and anhedonia.

Opiates are currently the med most used in death by suicide in the UK, (#1 opiates, #4 opiate and paracetamol combination) so it seems reasonable to be cautious about prescribing opiates to a group at increased risk of suicide.

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by klibertp on Monday November 23, 2015 @07:31AM (#10614202)
> Docs seem sorta-OK prescribing amphetamines in combination, but vastly more hesitant to even consider opiate treatment for depression.

I wonder, do opiates have any positive effect on depression? Short- or long-term? What about physical dependency? What about psychological addiction?

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by peteretep on Monday November 23, 2015 @03:11AM (#10613390)
Extraordinary claims generally require excellent citations.
Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by voynich61 on Monday November 23, 2015 @01:44AM (#10613222)
A component of the solution might be to take appropriate medication. I tried getting over the shit stew with drugs and no intentional internal change, first with prescribed drugs, then with, uh, other sources. It's so easy to believe that it's completely beyond your control, that it's a neurochemical problem that you cannot solve until the state of the system changes.

Meditate on this one for a bit: youtube.com/watch?v=lGwKXzH6tZY

Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by peteretep on Monday November 23, 2015 @02:16AM (#10613281)
I wonder if there's a chance that your personal illness isn't generally applicable to everyone's?
Re:How I’m Handling My Depression Using an App by voynich61 on Monday November 23, 2015 @02:21AM (#10613289)
peteretep, of course it isn't generally applicable to everyone's. It is an illustrative point: you have a lot more control over your head than you'd like to admit.