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Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by conwaytwitty on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @03:23PM (#10590462)
When X is illegal, only the criminals will have X.

Replace X with basically anything.

Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by biot on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @06:26PM (#10591512)
As a mere point of interest, that is logically equivalent to:

  When not only the criminals have X, then X is not illegal.
Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by lholden on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @03:48PM (#10590624)
When X is anything, criminals will likely try using X for bad things. :D
Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by andylei on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @04:57PM (#10591061)
when murder is illegal, only the criminals will murder
Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by aero142 on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @03:39PM (#10590588)
"When nuclear bombs are illegal, only the criminals will have nuclear bombs."

I think your grand unifying theory needs more nuance.

Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by coldtea on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @03:45PM (#10590611)
I hope we don't depend on the unavailability of nuclear bombs to the bad guys on them being "illegal".
Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by aninhumer on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @04:36PM (#10590918)
No, we depend on the enforcement of that illegality, which is usually assumed when people discuss banning something.

(EDIT: Previously said "making something illegal", which I realised was ambiguous.)

Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by marcosdumay on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @05:03PM (#10591101)
What, do you plan to make talking about crypto illegal too?
Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by aninhumer on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @05:21PM (#10591195)
I was replying to the general sentiment, not the specific.

Obviously banning encryption is ridiculous, but the "Only criminals will have X" argument is just silly rhetoric.

EDIT: I just noticed the ambiguity you're more likely responding to in my original post. I'll reword it.

Re:A Back Door to Encryption Won't Stop Terrorists by Quinner on Wednesday November 18, 2015 @06:05PM (#10591400)
I think your nit-picking needs more thought, nuclear bombs are illegal for an individual to possess, and if someone had managed to obtain a bomb from say the former USSR, they would most definitely be considered a criminal.