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Re:The Cost of Frameworks by panic on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @06:44PM (#10584858)
These aren't "small efficiencies". Ember TodoMVC takes over 40 times as long to start than the vanilla JS version.
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Re:The Cost of Frameworks by sandstrom on Sunday November 22, 2015 @05:42PM (#10611817)
We have an Ember mobile app, with native wrapper. Loads in ~1 second on a modern phone, which feels reasonable.

If it would take 25ms in vanilla JS (40x quicker) I'd still consider it a small efficiency gain in our case (from a users perspective).

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(should mention that there is no network latency, since it's an installed app the JS-code is bundled, obviously)

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