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Re:The Other France by nightspirit on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:58PM (#10568022)
Well, the Catholic Church for centuries was a serious part of European political machinery and our politics weren't always peaceful.

One could argue that nowadays some religions play similar role, btw.

Re:The Other France by mercurial on Sunday November 15, 2015 @03:10AM (#10568902)
I think a large part of the issue is that the Church's original pacifism is not a viable strategy for a state religion. Pacifism worked for Gandi, but against Visigoths or Mongols? Not a chance. So the Church had to shift doctrines (again showing that you can find what you're looking for in the Scriptures if you look hard enough) to "win the race", so to say.
Re:The Other France by jacquesm on Saturday November 14, 2015 @09:37PM (#10568256)
> the Catholic Church for centuries was a serious part of European political machinery and our politics weren't always peaceful.

In many places it still is. As is the Orthodox church.