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Re:The Other France by tomohawk on Saturday November 14, 2015 @04:48PM (#10567407)
There is a long history of charletans, politicians, criminals, and other unsavory characters using one religion or another as a pretext for their actions. That doesnt' mean that their actions had anything to do with those religions. You have to exercise a little more discernment to dig into what they're saying and what the religion actually advocates to come to a conclusion.

In the case of Christianity, I think it is telling that at the time the founder was teaching, there was a dictator in Rome who claimed to be god and who was heavily suppressing the ethnic group (Jews) that the founder belonged to.

Did this man advocate any sort of political or violent acts to remedy the situation? No.

I don't think it really matters what the opinion is of a lot of people when we can merely look at recorded history and see what the founder of Islam did.

Re:The Other France by hackuser on Saturday November 14, 2015 @05:56PM (#10567653)
As I pointed out above, this is silliness and nonsense. How does the "founder" affect what a particular individual does today? Should an indivdual be judged as a person, or be guilty or innocent, or have their rights taken away, based on what a book says a religious leader did 1300 years ago?

If Jesus was so peaceful and the founder is so influential, how do you explain all the evil acts of Christians?

The founder of all three religions, Abraham, impressed God by being willing to perform human sacrifice of his own son! I hope I'm not judged by that. Or if you only count Abraham as the founder of Judaism, should all Jews be expected to perform human sacrifice?

Re:The Other France by acqq on Saturday November 14, 2015 @06:37PM (#10567793)
It seems you don't know what which religion claims. The "founder" of Christianity is considered by Christians to actually be "God." ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity ) The "book" in which Muslims believe is by Muslims considered to be the actual words of God, and they negate the claims of both Jews and Christians, these just prepared the ground for Muhammad who is the last one who will ever receive the messages from God. And the messages are accurately recorded by miracle.

My favorite "actual last words" of God from those are where he says (roughly) that the uncle of Mohammad will go to hell and that the wife of the uncle will carry the wood for that fire. (111:1 etc)

Such a natural thing for God to worry to pass to the humanity for ever and ever.

The uncle of Mohammad dared to consider the claims of Mohammad (that he receives the messages of god) as stupidity and dangerous, Sunnah explains.

I'm not making this up.