Re:Hundreds of Nude Photos Jolt Colorado School
by kaonashi on Saturday November 14, 2015 @03:50PM
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> child sexual abuse
We're talking about teenagers engaging in sexual activity with other teenagers.
Re:Hundreds of Nude Photos Jolt Colorado School
by DanBC on Saturday November 14, 2015 @04:13PM
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We don't know if there was coercion involved or not.
Re:Hundreds of Nude Photos Jolt Colorado School
by silentplummet on Saturday November 14, 2015 @04:05PM
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The child's inability to consent to sex is inherent to the attributes of the child, and derives in no way from the attributes of the child's partner. Therefore, any sex that a child participates in, regardless of any attributes of the partner, is non-consensual and therefore the child is being raped.
That's the argument you're up against.
Re:Hundreds of Nude Photos Jolt Colorado School
by microcolonel on Saturday November 14, 2015 @04:47PM
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Who's the criminal if they're both underage? We know what the jury thinks, but that notwithstanding.
Re:Hundreds of Nude Photos Jolt Colorado School
by DanBC on Saturday November 14, 2015 @04:52PM
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The person possessing the image, unless they are the person in that image.
The person distributing that image, unless they are the person in that image.
The person taking the image, unless they are the person in that image.
The person causing that image to be taken whether by normal persuasion, or by coercion, or financial incentive, or violence. (Unless they are the person in that image).
I'm not keen on using that bit of criminal law on children. It doesn't feel like justice, and it doesn't seem to be working.
And the school was the only thing that all those children shared. The culture of the school is obviously a factor.
You can support and educate your child about nude images, but if s/he's spending 30 hours a week among people pressuring her/him for nude photos s/he is going to need to do a lot of resisting. (Which, in this case, may have increased the "point value" (if that bit's true) and thus increase the numbers of people trying to get pictures.)
> The police shouldn't be involved unless a charge has been levied by someone (e.g. "this person took pictures without my permission")
Children can't consent to sexual activity. Law makers decided that nude images of children is sexual activity. Thus, children can't consent to making nude images of themselves.
EDIT: Also, Bob may not care that Ann has the image. But if Ann's phone images get hacked and Bob's nude image ends up on the Internet Bob may feel considerable distress. We know that some / many people who were photographed during their child sexual abuse will experience trauma from the existence of those images.