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Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by rayiner on Friday November 13, 2015 @01:56PM (#10561664)
It's the standard civil burden of proof. If I say I own Blackacre and you say you own it, I just have to present enough evidence to get over the 50% mark.
Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by jbooth on Friday November 13, 2015 @02:11PM (#10561778)
I think the point here is that a civil burden of proof is completely inappropriate when the plaintiff is the state and there's an allegation of criminality.
Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by dragonwriter on Friday November 13, 2015 @02:21PM (#10561837)
That's not necessarily a bad argument, but the theoretical basis of the criminal burden of proof is that the kind of consequences resulting from criminal conviction are different than mere property (which is routinely at issue in civil cases).

So, the principle on which the existing distinction is based really doesn't support it being applied to forfeiture actions.

And, while there might be a good argument for changing the principle underlying the distinction, I don't see a clear reason for applying specifically the beyond a reasonable doubt standard to forfeiture (or even a higher standard that would apply in any other civil claim.)

Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by Spooky23 on Friday November 13, 2015 @04:44PM (#10562597)
If you're being sued to turn over The property I would say no problem... but you're not, it's being confiscated