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Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by tptacek on Friday November 13, 2015 @01:34PM (#10561477)
FWIW (Rayiner knows this, but maybe everyone else doesn't):

The concept of "proof of innocence" does not appear in the Constitution; it derives from common law, and the Latin word it comes from doesn't mean "prove" in the mathematical sense.

Which makes sense, because "innocent until formally proven guilty" doesn't make sense in a sentence that proceeds to "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Re:Stop-And-Seize Turns Police into Self-Funding Gangs by FireBeyond on Friday November 13, 2015 @04:18PM (#10562461)
And it's interesting, too, how often people go in the other direction, and seem to think "any shred of theory, however improbable, means you can't be found guilty", and attempt to try to classify it as "beyond any/all doubt".